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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 8 Jul 2012 23:15

;-) :-D Thanks!

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 8 Jul 2012 23:30


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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 9 Jul 2012 00:06

To fill readers in, the majority of the following records found by Maureen and sent by PM.

- Dorothy Fivash m Aaron G Davey in 1934

Possible children were born in 1936 and and (possibly) 1947 - no obvious UK death indicies found meaning they are either still living, died after 2006 or have emigrated.

The 1936 child has the initials C G F and the younger R F S. The second one married in 1970

He is listed on www.livingrelativesearch.co.uk in Bristol, but not on 192.com
We are not entirely confident that the 1947 son is Dorothy and Aaron's child - birth certificates should be purchased to confirm,


Dorothy's death

Name: Dorothy Davey
Birth Date: 24 Aug 1908
Date of Registration: Apr 1997
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: South Gloucester
Register Number: B5
District and Subdistrict: 3041B
Entry number: 163

Probably Aaron's

Aaron G(eorge) Davey
Birth Date: abt 1908
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1962
Age at Death: 54
Registration district: Thornbury
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 606

As Dorothy's death was in 1997, it is likely that one of her sons registered her death, and it may be possible to trace him from the details given on that.

Laura needs to purchase the DC from http://www.gro.gov.uk using the details for Dorothy Davey as above.

All along Laura has been saying that she was looking for someone whose name sounds like S/Zrederick.
Maureen and I think it more likely to be Frederick - both the sons have F as their third Christian name.

mgnv

mgnv Report 9 Jul 2012 00:18

Laura - I'm avoiding your question, and going back to Violet's so you may already have most of this info:


US 1870

name: Oliver Fiveash
estimated birth year: 1870
gender: Male
age in 1870: 3m
color (white, black, mulatto, chinese, indian): White
birthplace: Illinois
home in 1870: [Eagle Point, Ogle Co] Illinois, United States
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Charles Fiveash M 43y England [Day Laborer]
Ann Fiveash F 39y England [Keeps House]
John Fiveash M 14y Australia
Sarah Fiveash F 12y Australia
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Charlotte Fiveash F 8y Australia
Eliza Fiveash F 5y England
Alfred Fiveash M 3y England
Oliver Fiveash M 3m Illinois
Source Citation
United States Census, 1870," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M6H2-BKJ : accessed 8 July 2012), Oliver Fiveash in household of Charles Fiveash, Illinois, United States.
[Oliver b March 1870; P.O.=Polo]

The enumeration (on 6/7/1870 here) was supposed to reflect the status on 1/6/1870
The link to the image(s) is to left of transcription. You might have to do a free rego first (I've forgottem).
Dixon is 100m W of Chicago, just over halfway to Davenport on the Mississippi. Polo is 14 m NNW of Dixon.


Births Mar 1865 (>99%)
FIVASH Eliza Ann Thornbury 6a 175

Births Jun 1867 (>99%)
Fivash Alfred George Thornbury 6a 193

There's lots of interesting collections at:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND
The one we want is: England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900

name: Oliver Charles Fivash
event: Christening
event date: 20 Dec 1870
event place: Olveston, St Mary, Gloucestershire, England
father: Charles Fivash
mother: Ann Fivash
film number: 4277414
digital folder number: 4277414
image number: 00124
Source Citation
"England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XT79-Y5J : accessed 8 July 2012), Oliver Charles Fivash, 1870.

Unfortunately there's no associated image
I've seen Durham and Lancs OPRs where they've mentioned the birth was posthumous (to the father).
I don't know if they'ld say the same for baptisms, but I think the baptism probably was posthumous (to the father).
I don't see a death on FreeBMD for Chas, but Ann's a widow by 2/4/1871 (per Debi's census).
My guess is he died in IL - maybe that's why they're all back in the UK - for the family support.
It would be interesting to see if there were any family as neighbours.

This looks like a poss marr for Ann:

name: Charles Fivash
event: Marriage
event date: 05 Sep 1853
event place: Bristol, St James, Gloucestershire, England
gender: Female
age:
christening date:
marriage date:
marital status: Single
burial date:
father: William Fivash
mother:
spouse: Ann Britton
spouse's marital status: Single
spouse's father: John Britton
spouse's mother:
film number: 4197382
digital folder number: 4197382
image number: 00121
Source Citation
"England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTS6-HLK : accessed 8 July 2012), Charles Fivash, 1853.

It would be interesting to find Ann Britton 1851 to see how compatible she was with Ann Fivash 1871. It would be interesting to find Charles 1851 if one's going to trace him back.



A look up on Bristol PR for Oliver Fivash turns up:
his marr to Annie Sarah Tavinor d/o Abraham m 10 Jul 1895 @ Littleton-on-Severn
bp 25 Aug 1895 of Frederick John Fivash
bp 25 Jun 1899 of Alfred Charles Fivash
marr 07 Apr 1917 Frederick John Fivash & Blanche Cox d/o Charles

A search for Charles Fivash will get baptisms & marrs of some of Olly's sibs

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 9 Jul 2012 00:25

To Laura - as you are still a relative novice with computers and internet searching, if you click on any of the odd sentences/web addresses underlined, it will open a new web page to show a new site and possible records

it is perfectly safe to do so.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 9 Jul 2012 00:56

Mercy!

Now our Mal is here.

I think -well-heck-google for the Rob* name and he's been looking too!

Nite,
Mo

Ced*


mgnv

mgnv Report 9 Jul 2012 10:06

To my mind, Zedrick sounds like a west country way of saying Cedric - or had you all decided that already.

Olveston St Mary's photo
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/68118

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 9 Jul 2012 10:08

AH! A light bulb moment! That would fit with the first born son :-D