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AH! A light bulb moment! That would fit with the first born son :-D

To my mind, Zedrick sounds like a west country way of saying Cedric - or had you all decided that already.

Olveston St Mary's photo
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/68118

Mercy!

Now our Mal is here.

I think -well-heck-google for the Rob* name and he's been looking too!

Nite,
Mo

Ced*

To Laura - as you are still a relative novice with computers and internet searching, if you click on any of the odd sentences/web addresses underlined, it will open a new web page to show a new site and possible records

it is perfectly safe to do so.

Laura - I'm avoiding your question, and going back to Violet's so you may already have most of this info:


US 1870

name: Oliver Fiveash
estimated birth year: 1870
gender: Male
age in 1870: 3m
color (white, black, mulatto, chinese, indian): White
birthplace: Illinois
home in 1870: [Eagle Point, Ogle Co] Illinois, United States
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Charles Fiveash M 43y England [Day Laborer]
Ann Fiveash F 39y England [Keeps House]
John Fiveash M 14y Australia
Sarah Fiveash F 12y Australia
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Charlotte Fiveash F 8y Australia
Eliza Fiveash F 5y England
Alfred Fiveash M 3y England
Oliver Fiveash M 3m Illinois
Source Citation
United States Census, 1870," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M6H2-BKJ : accessed 8 July 2012), Oliver Fiveash in household of Charles Fiveash, Illinois, United States.
[Oliver b March 1870; P.O.=Polo]

The enumeration (on 6/7/1870 here) was supposed to reflect the status on 1/6/1870
The link to the image(s) is to left of transcription. You might have to do a free rego first (I've forgottem).
Dixon is 100m W of Chicago, just over halfway to Davenport on the Mississippi. Polo is 14 m NNW of Dixon.


Births Mar 1865 (>99%)
FIVASH Eliza Ann Thornbury 6a 175

Births Jun 1867 (>99%)
Fivash Alfred George Thornbury 6a 193

There's lots of interesting collections at:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND
The one we want is: England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900

name: Oliver Charles Fivash
event: Christening
event date: 20 Dec 1870
event place: Olveston, St Mary, Gloucestershire, England
father: Charles Fivash
mother: Ann Fivash
film number: 4277414
digital folder number: 4277414
image number: 00124
Source Citation
"England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XT79-Y5J : accessed 8 July 2012), Oliver Charles Fivash, 1870.

Unfortunately there's no associated image
I've seen Durham and Lancs OPRs where they've mentioned the birth was posthumous (to the father).
I don't know if they'ld say the same for baptisms, but I think the baptism probably was posthumous (to the father).
I don't see a death on FreeBMD for Chas, but Ann's a widow by 2/4/1871 (per Debi's census).
My guess is he died in IL - maybe that's why they're all back in the UK - for the family support.
It would be interesting to see if there were any family as neighbours.

This looks like a poss marr for Ann:

name: Charles Fivash
event: Marriage
event date: 05 Sep 1853
event place: Bristol, St James, Gloucestershire, England
gender: Female
age:
christening date:
marriage date:
marital status: Single
burial date:
father: William Fivash
mother:
spouse: Ann Britton
spouse's marital status: Single
spouse's father: John Britton
spouse's mother:
film number: 4197382
digital folder number: 4197382
image number: 00121
Source Citation
"England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTS6-HLK : accessed 8 July 2012), Charles Fivash, 1853.

It would be interesting to find Ann Britton 1851 to see how compatible she was with Ann Fivash 1871. It would be interesting to find Charles 1851 if one's going to trace him back.



A look up on Bristol PR for Oliver Fivash turns up:
his marr to Annie Sarah Tavinor d/o Abraham m 10 Jul 1895 @ Littleton-on-Severn
bp 25 Aug 1895 of Frederick John Fivash
bp 25 Jun 1899 of Alfred Charles Fivash
marr 07 Apr 1917 Frederick John Fivash & Blanche Cox d/o Charles

A search for Charles Fivash will get baptisms & marrs of some of Olly's sibs

To fill readers in, the majority of the following records found by Maureen and sent by PM.

- Dorothy Fivash m Aaron G Davey in 1934

Possible children were born in 1936 and and (possibly) 1947 - no obvious UK death indicies found meaning they are either still living, died after 2006 or have emigrated.

The 1936 child has the initials C G F and the younger R F S. The second one married in 1970

He is listed on www.livingrelativesearch.co.uk in Bristol, but not on 192.com
We are not entirely confident that the 1947 son is Dorothy and Aaron's child - birth certificates should be purchased to confirm,


Dorothy's death

Name: Dorothy Davey
Birth Date: 24 Aug 1908
Date of Registration: Apr 1997
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: South Gloucester
Register Number: B5
District and Subdistrict: 3041B
Entry number: 163

Probably Aaron's

Aaron G(eorge) Davey
Birth Date: abt 1908
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1962
Age at Death: 54
Registration district: Thornbury
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 606

As Dorothy's death was in 1997, it is likely that one of her sons registered her death, and it may be possible to trace him from the details given on that.

Laura needs to purchase the DC from http://www.gro.gov.uk using the details for Dorothy Davey as above.

All along Laura has been saying that she was looking for someone whose name sounds like S/Zrederick.
Maureen and I think it more likely to be Frederick - both the sons have F as their third Christian name.

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Please

;-) :-D Thanks!

DET,
I'll owe you one on this.

Incoming etc.

Ced who knows? Rob? maybe???

Mo

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Ah. Thank you Maureen.

Have you been able to sort out records and associated sources for Dorothy? Are we to assume that it is possible he is still living?

Had a PM from Laura and have asked her to reply on the thread.

I did figure out,though,that the child she was mentioning was the son of Dorothy,not Amy. (Dorothy married a Davey).

I do think we've matched Amy up correctly.

Maureen

Ha! I'm off to bed as well.

Maureen :-D :-D

If you're right

2nd marriage deleted - as above

Either Fr/Z/ederick was adopted, or he was her stepson

Sorry Maureen - really ought to go to bed. Good luck with finding the missing child!

Laura - if you are reading, please give us some feed back by replying on the thread, Click on the purple reply button at the top of the page, or scroll to the bottom.
We work better if we think people are watching! :-D

Oh no,no, I wasn't suggesting that!!!!

I think this is she re-marrying.
England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Amy Burcombe
Name: Amy Burcombe
Spouse Surname: Roberts (Joseph T)
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1951
Registration district: Evesham
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 327

Maureen :-)

Yes - she could have re-married after Thomas' death in 1942...but she'd be getting on a bit for another child?

Although not strictly relevant to your query, this may be of interest

Thomas Ayliffe Burcombe
Probate Date: 21 Aug 1942
Death Date: 12 May 1942
Death Place: Gloucestershire, England
Registry: Gloucestershire, England

Of Woodhouse Farm Almondsbury died 12 May 1942 at the Royal Infirmary Bristol. Administration to Amy Burcombe widow and Phyllis Anne Purnell Burcombe spinster.
Effects £5385 6s 5d

[Phyllis was one of their daughters]

Thomas' Christening record - you can see where Purnell comes from
Thomas Aycliffe Burcombe
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Dec 1887
Christening Date: 29 Jan 1888
Christening Place: Almondsbury, Gloucestershire, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: Jacob Thomas Burcombe
Mother's name: Mary Purnell

Seems the only likely possible,DET. It looks as though Thomas died and Amy re-married. I think this is her death:
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Amy Roberts
Name: Amy Roberts
Birth Date: 8 Feb 1897
Date of Registration: Apr 1986
Age at Death: 89
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 22
Page: 690

Maureen

This *might* be a marriage, but you'd need to purchase it from
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
to be sure....unless someone can find a Parish record?

Amy Fiveash
Spouse Surname: Burcombe- Thomas A
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1920
Registration district: Thornbury
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 735

There are 4 children with the surname Burcombe and mother's maiden name Fivash shown on http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl in the thornbury reg district

Since they were born 1921, 1922, 1923 and 1938 they may still be living. None have an initial Z/F or name beginning with that.

1911 - this wasn't available until recently

Amy Fivash
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Olveston, Gloucestershire
Civil parish: Olveston
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Olveston, Glos
Occupation: school
Registration district: Thornbury
Oliver Charles Fivash 41 - Stone Quarry Worker
Annie Sarah Fivash 43 - married 15 years, 6 live births,5 still living
Amy Fivash 13
Herbert Fivash 10
Annie Sarah Fivash 7
Dorothy Fivash 2

Birth registration?? or an earlier child?

Amy Fivash
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1897
Registration district: Thornbury
Inferred County: Avon, Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 215