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NEWBIE needs:1871 Gloucester(?) Census Lookup, Ple

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*Kit

*Kit Report 29 Aug 2005 08:25

Hi Deb, Thank you very much for your additional info., re Calvin & Sophia EVANS, family and children. I'm sorry I was not able to acknowledge you before this. I am a 'Senior'- Newbie, nudging 70 yrs; - Not good health and limited access to computer - so it tends to take me a little while to get things done!! Your time and hard work finding this latest info., is very much appreciated. If I put my next query out on this Thread, will some kind persons still see it, and try to work on it to help me, please? Or do I need to put a new 'Thread' up each time I have a question, please? Anyway, I'm puzzled as to why there seems to be no trace of the family above, on the 1881 Census. Do you think the name may be 'lurking' on the 1881, but under an incorrect spelling?.......and if that's the case, how might we go about searching for them? The first instinctive name 'Hunches' that come to me, are Evens, Evins, Evons, and Ewan or Ewans. Obviously the family was still in Cheltenham Glouc., in 1891, as you found them, and by 1901, Sophia was then widowed, but still she and Charlotte (youngest child) are sharing accommodation at Millbrook Tce. Cheltenham. It seems this entire family never strayed too far from Northleach and Cheltenham and Gloucester. They don't appear to have ever left County Glouc. If you know, or can think of a way to 'find Sophia and the children' in 1881, it might show whether Calvin (husband) was alive, and working, and where ??, then. Calvin was a Whitesmith Journeyman - which I'm told meant he worked for other people, and not as a Master Craftsman working for himself - so perhaps he had to travel somewhere on a particular job? Maybe he could have been listed in the 1881 census, as a 'visitor', traveller, lodger, or something ?Maybe in a nearby village, district or neighbouring county?. Maybe he was in hospital? I'm rather bemused by all this, and as you can probably tell, struggling to figure it! (LOL) And I don't know where, or what, to look for, to find him!! However, I did want to thank you Deb, for your kindness and time devoted to finding Sophia and children, through the later decades. I also wondered whether it's possible that you and Suzanne Butler, may have access to all the Census images and whether each of you would be willing to e-mail the images to me please? I think I'll email via GR internally, a little 'Private Message' (PM) about Census Images to you and Suzanne - wherein I could nominate an e-mail addy - rather than on this Thread. Finally, would it be possible for a Kind Helper to try to find Calvin Evans MARRIAGE to Sophia (nee ????) Possibly 1856 to 1858; probably in Co. Glouc. I've spent all my time looking through LDS's IGI and 1881 Census etc., but found nothing. I was lucky however, that I found Calvin's parents - Robert and Ann Evans in LDS 1881 - they were 75 and 74 yrs and still at Northleach, Gloucester. Robert's occupation states 'Almsman Late Carpenter (No)' and his wife Ann's occupation is shown as 'Almsman'. Can someone please tell me what this would have meant to this elderly couple in 1881, please? I know this seems like a lot of questions and a little 'higgledy-piggledy' - and so my apologies! - just trying to get a handle on all this amazing ancestry, we had no knowledge existed!!. We're thrilled to pieces, and thank you Deb and Suzanne, very very much! Kit xx :) :) Mon 29 Aug 2005 - Australia

Debi Coone

Debi Coone Report 28 Aug 2005 10:55

By 1901 Sophia is recorded as Widow. Charlotte is still living with her: Charlotte Evans abt 1869 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Cheltenham Christchurch Gloucestershire Sophia Evans abt 1834 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Head Cheltenham Christchurch Gloucestershire Sophia no occupation recorded. Charlotte is recorded as Upholstere - own account. The address is 10 Old Millbrook Terrace, Cheltenham Christchurch.

Debi Coone

Debi Coone Report 28 Aug 2005 10:51

I too can not find the family in 1881 however found Sophia with 2 of her children in 1891: Evans, Charlotte abt 1865 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Cheltenham Gloucestershire Evans, Sophia abt 1836 Chellaston, Gloucestershire, England Head Cheltenham Gloucestershire Evans, William abt 1864 Chellaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Cheltenham Gloucestershire Sophia's occupation is recorded as a Caretaker The address is 16 Priory Street Cheltenham It also clearly marks her as Married and not widowed even though Head of the house.

*Kit

*Kit Report 28 Aug 2005 10:22

Hi Suzanne! Thank you for this fantastic information! :)))))) You've made me VERY happy!! (not shouting - just emphasizing). :) Now we have all these extra Ancestors, hitherto unknown. Your speed is astonishing. I've only just checked my Thread. I didn't dream of such a rapid response!. Thank you for all your time and help. May I ask again please, for help with 1851 Census details for the family of ROBERT EVANS, wife Ann, children Henry, Calvin, Mark, and ?? any additional children. Yes, on the 1861 Census - it shows CALVIN EVANS as Head of household - aged 25 and a Whitesmith - I believe he was a journeyman - and 'think' that a Whitesmith then, is what we call today, a Silversmith. Have been hunting, but can't find Calvin and Sophia on the 1881 Census - don't know why - been trying through LDS - family dot search dot org etc., But somebody within GR may have a better 1881 Census?? Was also thinking Calvin and Sophia may have left Gloucester. Possibly moved to Lancashire (??), maybe somewhere near to Preston?. No real evidence on this, sorry. Anyway, I'm thrilled with all the new Ancestors and will be keen to follow their passage through the decades, if possible. Thank you again Suzanne - you've made my day! :) :) Regards, Kit-Kat xx :) :) Sunday 28 Aug 2005

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 28 Aug 2005 07:36

1841: Northleach,Gloucestershire Robert Evans - age 35- carpenter - born in another county Ann Evans - age 30 - born in county Henry Evans - age 8 - born in county Calvin Evans - age 6 - born in county Mark Evans - age 4 born in county Suzanne

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 28 Aug 2005 07:24

Hi again newbie I wont wait to be asked...LOL... here is 1861: 7 Chapel Street,Cheltenham,Gloucestershire Calvin Evans-Head-age 25-Whitesmith?-born Northleach Sophia Evans-Wife-age25-born Cheltenham Mary A Evans-daughter-age 3-born Cheltenham Emma S Evans-daughter-age2-born Cheltenham Frederic Evans - son-age 9mths-born Cheltenham If I get anything else Ill let you know. Suzanne

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 28 Aug 2005 07:17

Hi Newbie 1871: 3 Soot Alley,St Aldgate,Gloucester (Husband not at home) Sophia Evans - Wife-Married-age36-born Cheltenham Mary Evans-daughter-age14-born Cheltenham Emma Evans - daughter-age 12-born Cheltenham William Evans-son-age8-born Cheltenham Charles Evans-son-age 6-born Gloucester Charlotte Evans-daughter-age 4-born Gloucester I have the family in1861-let me know if you want this. Suzanne

*Kit

*Kit Report 28 Aug 2005 06:00

Seeking all/any info., available, to find Ancestor CALVIN EVANS, his siblings, and his parents, please. :) Sorry, have no other info., except: At age 21 Calvin was probably living in Gloucester. He was married to Sophia (?Sophie), and they had at least one child (Charles Calvin Evans, born 4th December 1864). Will greatly appreciate any help from a kind person. Thank You in advance. :) [Have crossed my fingers!! :) :) ]