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This looks like Ann's birth reg............ Name: Donaldson, Ann Eliza Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1871 District: Stockton County: Co. Durham North Riding of Yorkshire Volume: 10a Page: 127 Rose

hiya Rose Thank you, for Edgars information, i knew there where 3 children but didnt know Edgar and Ann's who where my Grandmothers siblings I actually think some years ago they knew i would be looking so changed some of the letters to the names lol, Rachael

This is how the family were transcribed by Ancestry from the 1901 census sheets............ Mary Ann Donaldson abt 1877 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Sister Grimsby Lincolnshire Ada Maston abt 1901 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Grimsby Lincolnshire Ann E Maston abt 1872 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Wife Grimsby Lincolnshire Edgar Maston abt 1897 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Grimsby Lincolnshire Thomas M Maston abt 1873 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Head Grimsby Lincolnshire No wonder they couldn't be found!!!!! Rose

Hi Rachael Following on from my e-mail, here is Edgar's birth reg'n Name: Malton, Edgar Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1896 District: Beverley (1837-1937) County: East Riding of Yorkshire Volume: 9d Page: 105 Rose

hiya Deborah Thank you so much for the information, you guys are truly the best, with ot all your help i would have still been screaming at the computer,,lol i know Ann parents married in may 13 1861 in scotland, i do have a copy of the cert but its really faint, it looks like her maiden name was Gallacher but thats another wall :-) lol Once again thank you for helping me it is absolutely apprieciated id give you all a great big hug if i could Rachael

hiya Rose wow you have me really intrigued, have sent email via GR message Many thanks Rachael

Rachael Will you send me your e-mail address......I've got somthing I think you'll like................... Rose

This is Thomas Maltons parents marriage Marriages Sep 1866 Lumbard Sarah Beverley 9d 135 Malton Richard Beverley 9d 135 Anns parents look to have been married in Scotland as first Son born there. If you could find Ann/ie Gavin in 1891 census you may be able to solve the mystery Deborah

To complicate things more it looks like Anns brother Thomas Donaldson married Thomas Maltons sister Sarah. Marriages Mar 1894 Donaldson Thomas James Beverley 9d 193 Malton Sarah Jane Beverley 9d 193 so brother and sister from one house married sister and brother from other house a year after they became step siblings. Deborah

Heres Thomass father Richard in 1881 probably working away from home Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Aron LAZENBY Head M Male 37 Nafferton, York, England Farm Labourer Milcah LAZENBY Wife M Female 33 Hunmanby, York, England Farm Labourers Wife Stephen HOLTBY Lodger M Male 43 Bishopburton, York, England Iron Planner Richard MALTON Lodger M Male 39 Leckonfield, York, England Wheelwright -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Cottage Census Place Boynton, York, England Family History Library Film 1342158 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4798 / 8 Page Number 10 He died in 1890 Deaths Mar 1890 Malton Richard 46 Beverley 9d 75 and Thomass mother Sarah married in 1893 Marriages Dec 1893 Coates Harry Beverley 9d 238 Donaldson Margaret Beverley 9d 238 ***Donaldson Thomas Henry Beverley 9d 238 ***Malton Sarah Beverley 9d 238 The year before Annie and Thomas Deborah ***Margaret probably his daughter as one listed with him in 1881. So she was Anns sister.

1871..........Thomas's father was Richard............ Henry James abt 1835 Norwich Boarder Beverley St Martin Yorkshire John Matton abt 1867 Beverley, Yorkshire, England Son Beverley St Martin Yorkshire Richard Matton abt 1842 Leconfield, Yorkshire, England Head Beverley St Martin Yorkshire Sarah Matton abt 1840 Beverley, Yorkshire, England Wife Beverley St Martin Yorkshire Sarah Matton abt 1869 Beverley, Yorkshire, England Daughter Beverley St Martin Yorkshire John W Tacey abt 1852 Goole, Lincolnshire, England Boarder Beverley St Martin Yorkshire A mistranscription again.......... And (presumably) the parents.........gives you Elizabeth's maiden name.......... Robert Arnott abt 1826 Leconfield, Yorkshire, England Brother-in-law Beverley St Martin Yorkshire Elizabeth Malton abt 1820 Leconfield, Yorkshire, England Wife Beverley St Martin Yorkshire John Malton abt 1819 Beverley, Yorkshire, England Head Beverley St Martin Yorkshire Hannah Perry abt 1855 Beeford, Yorkshire, England Servant Beverley St Martin Yorkshire Edward Warcup abt 1828 Hull, Yorkshire, England Boarder Beverley St Martin Yorkshire This is the Thomas who is with John & Elizabeth in 1891 Thomas Malton abt 1841 Lakenfield, Yorkshire, England Lodger Huddersfield Yorkshire Incidentally, he was still 'single' in 1891 Rose Rose

Well i'm pleased it started to make sense somewhere, because this has had me so confused, but i owe you a great big THANK YOU, as if not for the information you have given me i would of been bald by now. So with all that ties in Ann Eliza was definatley a Donaldson when born and became a Malton when married in 1894, just have to work out where the Gavin fits in Kind Regards Rachael

1901...........and I see that the birth in 1904 was in Grimsby.............it's all beginning to fit............. Arthur Donaldson abt 1878 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Grimsby Lincolnshire David E Donaldson abt 1882 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Grimsby Lincolnshire Hector A Donaldson abt 1880 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Grimsby Lincolnshire Sarah Donaldson abt 1841 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Wife Grimsby Lincolnshire Thomas H Donaldson abt 1844 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Head Grimsby Lincolnshire James A Molton abt 1881 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Stepson Grimsby Lincolnshire Rose

Rose.. Just re read the information you posted and i think i have made a link hurrayyyyyyyyy,,,now hope you got a coffee as its a long one lol .... After Ann Eliza's Mother Died her Father re married,,,,, Her name was Sarah Malton !!!! now Sarah Malton on here was married to Thomas Malton, who some where dissapears but the information on sarah is excactly the same ,,,so could Ann Eliza have married her step brother which was Thomas Henry ( sarahs Son) And the Thomas Malton living next door could of been her Husband and his parents ???/ Or am i just hoping for too much LOL Rachael

hiya Rose thanks so much for helping with this, I tried to find her after 1881 and she doesnt seem to come up any where, Rachael

This seems to be some of Ann's family in 1891...........haven't found her yet.............. Donaldson, Arthur abt 1878 Stockton, Durham, England Son St Nicholas Yorkshire Donaldson, Augstine abt 1880 Stockton, Durham, England Son St Nicholas Yorkshire Donaldson, Edwin abt 1883 Stockton, Yorkshire, England Son St Nicholas Yorkshire Donaldson, Mary Ann abt 1876 Stockton, Durham, England Daughter St Nicholas Yorkshire Donaldson, Thos abt 1867 Stockton, Durham, England Son St Nicholas Yorkshire Donaldson, Thos Hy abt 1843 Head St Nicholas Yorkshire Head is a widower - listed as 'deaf'. St Nicholas is in Beverley, which ties in with the marriage Rose

1891................. Matton, Dick abt 1875 Beverley, Yorkshire, England Son St Mary Yorkshire Matton, James Uinoth abt 1880 Beverley, Yorkshire, England Son St Mary Yorkshire Matton, John abt 1869 Beverley, Yorkshire, England Son St Mary Yorkshire Matton, Sarah abt 1844 Beverley, Yorkshire, England Head St Mary Yorkshire Matton, Thos Hehry abt 1873 Beverley, Yorkshire, England Son St Mary Yorkshire Living next door............. Matton, John abt 1829 Beverley, Yorkshire, England Head St Mary Yorkshire Matton, Elizabeth abt 1820 Leconfield, Yorkshire, England Wife St Mary Yorkshire Matton, Thomas abt 1841 Leconfield, Yorkshire, England Son St Mary Yorkshire Rose

I've just come back to this one.........I've been trying to find the couple on 1901, but without success; have they been horribly mistranscribed? Kathleen - a very valid point about the 'Ann E' as spoken; I hadn't thought of that......... Rose

Can i firstly say thank you to all who offered their help Deborah ...the census that you show is Ann Eliza Donaldson, in which i refer ,,born in Stockton,,,and Thomas Henry Malton ,,,Beverley, I know she was definatley Donaldson when born as the some of my family members have provided me with photos,and information birth cert and death cert but when they had their Daughter Margaret Lily Malton (my Grandmother ) On the Birth Cert it says Formerly Gavin .under Mothers name of Ann E Malton. i did wonder like some of you if n fact they had spelt her name wrong Annie Gavin on Ancestry but i just search for hours and come up with nothing. The Donaldson family moved to Beverley by 1891, As the mother died in 1890, which is how they must of met. Yes Kathleen and Rose that is the marriage i found but that confused me even more lol Once again any help would be great as im totally confused and have nearly pulled all my hair out Kind Regards to all Rachael

Hi Rose, Do you think that Ann could have given her name as 'Ann E.' and the registrar or vicar interpreted that as 'Annie'. If she couldn't read she wouldn't know it had been written down wrongly. Just a thought, really. Kath. x