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Hi, I am looking for a Henry Andrew Hawkins, I am not sure of his birth year but he has a son James who was born in 1871. He was his youngest son I think so I am guessing he was born around 1841 ish. James married and died in Sheffield but I have been told that James went to sea at the age of 13, possibly from Strood/ StroudI know I am doing a lot of guessing but this is all I have from James marriage cert in 1917. Any help would be much appreciated as I am really really stuck Thanks Zoe :)

When did he die? What's his occupation on the marriage cert?

Hi Lou, I am not sure when Henry Andrew died but was not alive on James marriage cert in 1917. I have been told that James went to sea at 13 around the time his father died which would have been about 1884. James died in 1948. Thanks this is a real puzzle to me Zoe :))

If James married in 1917 and was born in 1871 that makes him 46 when he got married Is that right?

Zoe There are over 50 James Hawkins born c.1871 on the 1881 census We're gonna need more to work with, babe! Lou

Hi Lou, yes he was a 46 when he got married. I know this is a hard one isn't it, you can see why I am struggling. lol Thanks anyway Zoe :)

Father's occupation on marriage cert? Other than deceased!

Hi Sarah, Henry was an engine driver as far as I can see and James was a Hall Porter. I can't even find James on any census records though. Thanks Zoe

Hi Lou, I have just added another reply with what they did, thankyou thankyou thankyou. This is really doin my head in so sorry for doin yours in too. x

Hi Zoe I think I'd be tempted to try and locate the father's death and get the certificate. It would give you an address that could be checked on the census before and a better idea of when Henry Andrew was born Lou

Lou, Have you any ideas where or how to search for his death. Thanks Zoe :)

Not a clue, sweetie! There's nothing on freebmd or ancestry but they aint complete Try family rellies if you have any credits left. You'll probably have to do a search, say 1880 to 1890 for Henry Hawkins seeing as you can't use initials as a criteria but hopefully you might get one with Andrew as a middle name Worth a shot!

Frances His 1917 marriage cert says he was 46, I believe....1871 birth year approx Lou

Zoe babe I admit defeat, for tonight at least. I can't find anything on these people and after 5hrs trawling 1841 St Pancras, my eyes aint up to it! I'll have another look for you in the morning Lou x

Hi Frances, Yes as Lou says I have James marriage cert and it does say he was 46. Thanks for replying to my thread Zoe

Ah Thanks Lou, You don't have to look for me I know you must be tired, but thanks for helping me out it was nice talking anyway. Take Care Zoe :)

You certainly have got a problem bunch, hon, I have to say.....no offence!

I like a challenge and I'm stuck with all mine at the moment. My two main lines are London and Essex. I live about 6 miles from Manchester. None of the records I need are online anywhere Ho hum.....

Lou, I have a brick wall each way I turn, bless me. Thanks Hon

Oh my ! I have just been looking through my Nannan's old birthday book and found her dad James Hawkins Born 14/12/1870 Died 12/11/1948 So he should be on the 1871 census, but I still don't know where he was born dah ! Zoe X