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And this looks like their marriage Surname First name(s) District Vol Page ----------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1895 ---------------------------------------- Addyman Thomas Stockport 8a 112 Bowers John Palfreyman Stockport 8a 112 Mag?ess Sarah Emily Stockport 8a 112 Magness Sarah Emily Stockport 8a 112 Winder? Grace Stockport 8a 112 Winder Grace Stockport 8a 112

So Sarah Emily is Ada's sister Magness, Ada 13 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire Daughter Abergavenny Monmouthshire Magness, Clara 39 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Wife Abergavenny Monmouthshire Magness, Elsie Melinda 11/12 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire Daughter Abergavenny Monmouthshire Magness, Mabel Alice 3 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire Daughter Abergavenny Monmouthshire Magness, Sarah Emily 17 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire Daughter Abergavenny Monmouthshire Magness, William 39 Goodrich, Herefordshire Head Abergavenny Monmouthshire

HIS MOTHERS PARENTS ERNEST HODGETTS BORN 1876 POSS WALES ADA MAGNESS BORN 1878 POSS WALES DAUGHTER EDNA PEARL 1912 PONTYPRIDD

John on 1891 Bowers, Amelia 17 Stockport, Cheshire Sister Stockport Cheshire Bowers, George Hy 28 Manchester, Lancashire Head Stockport Cheshire Bowers, John 19 Stockport, Cheshire Brother Stockport Cheshire Bowers, Morel Ann 23 Manchester, Lancashire Sister Stockport Cheshire

Hi Carol This looks like your father's grandma as a girl with family in 1891 Magness, Ada 13 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire Daughter Abergavenny Monmouthshire Magness, Clara 39 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Wife Abergavenny Monmouthshire Magness, Elsie Melinda 11/12 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire Daughter Abergavenny Monmouthshire Magness, Mabel Alice 3 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire Daughter Abergavenny Monmouthshire Magness, Sarah Emily 17 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire Daughter Abergavenny Monmouthshire Magness, William 39 Goodrich, Herefordshire Head Abergavenny, Monmouthshire Address is 66, Lower ?Monk Street, Abergavenny and William is listed as a Railway Porter. Sarah

HI SARAH THATS THEM HAVE BEEN ON THE PHONE TO MY DAD AND HE SAID HIS GRANDAD WORK ON THE RAILWAY

Have you actually noticed all the info I've found??

And again in 1881 aged 2... Ada Magness abt 1879 Abergavenny, Monmouth, Wales Daughter Abergavenny Catherine Magness abt 1853 Llanvetherine, Monmouth, Wales Wife Abergavenny William Magness abt 1852 Goodrich, Hereford, England Head Abergavenny Sarah Preece abt 1875 Abergavenny, Monmouth, Wales Daughter Abergavenny Ah, Sarah Preece!!, thats where she was Sarah

William's marriage to Clara Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1885 -------------------------------- Bruce Lewis Hobart Abergavenny 11a 80 Hill Clara Abergavenny 11a 80 Magness William Abergavenny 11a 80 SULLIVAN Mary Louisa Abergavenny 11a 80 And marriage to Catherine Preece Surname First name(s) District Vol Page ------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1877 ---------------------------------- MAGNESS William Abergavenny 11a 71 Preece Catherine Abergavenny 11a 71 Suggesting that Cather was either a widow, and Sarah was her daughter from that marriage OR that Sarah was born out of wedlock.

Might this be Catherine's baptism and she lied about her age for the 81? CATHARINE PREECE Female -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 17 SEP 1850 Llanvetherine, Monmouth, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JAMES PREECE Family Mother: ELIZABETH

Sarah - Births Jun 1874 -------------------------- PREECE Sarah Emily Abergavenny 11a 58

HI CHLOE YOU ARE A TREASURE AND I HAVE PRINTED IT ALL OFF CAN YOU FIND ANY THING NOW ON MY DADS GRANDAD

AND SARAH YOU ARE ALSO A TREASURE DONT KNOW WHERE I WOULD HAVE BEEN WITH OUT YOU THANKS CAROL

Do you know anything about Ernest Hodgetts? There are a few that could be him. I can't find a marriage between Ernest and Ada. None of the possibles are in Wales.

These are the Ernest's on Family Relatives between 1870-1880 No Surname Forename1 Forename2 Forename3 Mothers maiden name District Page No Event Quarter Year View Image 1 Hodgetts Ernest Aston.6d 384 Birth 2 1880 2 Hodgetts Ernest Herbert Droitwich.6c 386 Birth 2 1875 3 Hodgetts Ernest Frederick Dudley.6c 134 Birth 3 1875 4 Hodgetts Ernest Harry Dudley.6c 114 Birth 3 1878 5 Hodgetts Ernest Albert Kings Norton.6c 435 Birth 2 1870 6 Hodgetts Ernest Arthur Shipston On Stour.6d 581 Birth 3 1871 7 Hodgetts Ernest Stafford.6b 11 Birth 2 1876 8 Hodgetts Ernest Colbourne Stourbridge.6c 221 Birth 2 1879 9 Hodgetts Ernest Wolverhampton.6b 610 Birth 1 1879 Only 1876 one is Staffordshire. 1875 one is Staffordshire (Dudley) Droitwich is Worcestershire I think.

Listing the ones born around 1876 on the 1881 census. There is one born 1871, and two 1879. Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Joseph BUTLER Head M Male 52 Gloucester, England Labr General Elizth. BUTLER Wife M Female 55 Bisley, Gloucester, England Alice Sarah BUTLER Dau Female 9 Doderhill, Worcester, England Scholar Ernest HODGETTS Boarder Male 5 Wychbold, Worcester, England Scholar James HAVELL Boarder U Male 49 Claines, Worcester, England Labr General -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Corn Meadow No 25 Census Place Claines, Worcester, England Family History Library Film 1341702 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2934 / 15 Page Number 21 Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Richard HODGETTS Head M Male 31 Dudley, Worcester, England Engine Fitter At Works Elizabeth HODGETTS Wife M Female 31 Dudley, Worcester, England Richard HODGETTS Son Male 9 Netherton, Worcester, England Scholar John W. HODGETTS Son Male 7 Netherton, Worcester, England Scholar Ernest F. HODGETTS Son Male 5 Netherton, Worcester, England Scholar Ann M. HODGETTS Daur Female 4 Netherton, Worcester, England Scholar Edward HODGETTS Son Male 2 Netherton, Worcester, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 7 Queen St Census Place Ormesby, York, England Family History Library Film 1342170 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4861 / 128 Page Number 19 Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability William HODGETTS Head M Male 57 Seighford, Stafford, England Master Tailor Eliza HODGETTS Wife M Female 45 Barton Under Needwood, Stafford, England Tailors Wife Edwin HODGETTS Son U Male 16 Seighford, Stafford, England Farm Labourer Emily HODGETTS Daught U Female 9 Seighford, Stafford, England Scholar Clara HODGETTS Daught U Female 7 Seighford, Stafford, England Scholar Ernest HODGETTS Son U Male 4 Seighford, Stafford, England Scholar Martha HODGETTS Daught U Female 2 Seighford, Stafford, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Seighford Village Census Place Seighford, Stafford, England Family History Library Film 1341643 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2686 / 23 Page Number 2