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How can a whole family not be shown? I've looked on all the normal sites and I cannot find a list of McPhersons for the census. The family consisting of Ellen McP. widower, Albert 16 years old, Charles 6, Annie 17, Walter 10. At the birth of the youngest child they were in Walpole Palce Woolwich. How did people disappear?

Hi Roy, What area's were they born or their names? Laurie

Laurie The family were all from around Woolwich, North and South of the ferry.

Hi Roy Here's Annie: 1901 living 61 High Street, Woolwich, London head John Hufford 44yrs single b Woolwich, Kent occ Grocer servant Annie McPherson 18yrs single b Woolwich, Kent occ Grocers Assistant How old would Ellen be? Still looking for the others. Laurie

Hi Roy, have Ellen with Walter and charles if you would like the image email me Shan

Laurie I'm impressed, what search engine have you used? Obviously Annie must ahve left home. Please note the ages on the first post. Roy

Charles Mc Pherson 6 Woolwich, London, England Son Plumstead London Ellen Mc Pherson 42 Greenwich, London, England Head Plumstead London Walter Mc Pherson 12 Woolwich, London, England Son Plumstead London

Laurie Ellen nee Baldwin would have been approx. 42. Her hsuband Alfred had died in Sept 1900. Roy

Hi Roy, Have ancestry. It looks like Shan has found Ellen, Walter and Charles. I'm not getting anything for Albert. Laurie

6 lambs conduit Street, London Albert Mc Pherson 18 London, England Servant St Andrew Holborn and St George the Martyr London - grocers assistant I'm intrigued by the fact that both the page for Ellen and this Albert use the spelling Mc Pherson as opposed to McPherson!!

Miss Zoe Thank you and where did you find them, I've tried the 1901 and frbd to no avail. Strange that Albert is missing, perhaps he followed big sister. Roy

Roy I have access to 1901 on ancestry (which I think is a different transcription the the PRO one) but you can be far more flexible with your search options e.g. if you don't put a surname you don't HAVE to then know a place of birth AND age etc etc

Zoe I'm not sure thats my Alby. I know there was some McP's in the Holborn area but he was definitely younger than Annie who we've found at age 18 in Woolwich.

Hi Roy, Tell a lie think this could be him: 1901 living 6 Lambs ? Street, St Andrew Holborn and St George the Martyr, London head George E Gossling 54yrs b London wife Ellen 46yrs b Dorset daur Ethel M 19yrs b London servant Albert Mc Pherson 18yrs b London servant Henry Cox 33yrs b Ipswich servant Jacob Flomers 15yrs b London servant William H Harvey 16yrs b London servant Charles May 40yrs b London servant Arthur Pugh 19yrs b Wales servant William Rolla 40yrs b Dundee, Scotland servant Annie Worcester 21yrs b London Laurie

Making the grocer bit unlikely is that Albert became a policeman in Gypsy Hill south London, what age did they enter back then.

Roy There could be many reasons why the ages are not matching up for Annie and ALbert. Bear in mind that neither of their heads of household were related to them so would not be 100% sure when they were born or couldnt do what I suspect most parents did when they fill out a census by going "baby John, Bob two years before, Sarah a year before that" to get ages of 1, 3 and 4!!! Or maybe Albert had to lie about his age to get a job to earn his family a few extra pennies or to pretend he'd completed his schoolingw hen he hadn't!! Do you have the family in 1891 census so we can compare?

Unfortunately not, I picked the parents up in the 1881 but of course no brats then.

I'm trying to find them for you now - when was alfred born?

Alfred born 15th Sept 1855, the family address was Burrage Road Plumstead.

I'm struggling here. Can I just double check Alfred McPherson born 1855 Plumstead Ellen McPherson nee baldwin born 1858 Greenwich all children born Woolwich