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just got back to my computer............wow thank you so much everyone, i will have to digest everything. i know i still don't know her date of death but you have all been brilliant. thank you for taking the time to provide me with all this info!!!!! i am overwhelmed.

To be fair, i think thats about it... doesn't find the death tho :(

I have to go to work in about 40 mins.... so thats pretty much me for the night....

so you don't need me then.

i went to put the kids to bed, come back and i find theres no need for me here, lol

i'll leave you to it then wayne.

Births Jun 1899 (>99%)
Dean Mary Ann Wigan 8c 9

Births Sep 1897 (>99%
Dean Thomas Wigan 8c 135
or
Births Dec 1896 (>99%)
Dean Thomas Wigan 8c 63

Looks like Ellen's husband died early, she back at home with her mum and 2 small children!

1901 England Census
about Ellen Dean
Name: Ellen Dean
[Ellen Ollerton]
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Haigh, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Wigan
Ecclesiastical parish: Wigan St Andrew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Dean 26
Mary Ann Dean 1
Thomas Dean 4
Bridget Ollerton 19
Hannah Ollerton 22
Margaret Ollerton 17
Mary Ollerton 51
Michael Ollerton 24

There is also Margaret on the 1891 census.

Births Sep 1883 (>99%)
Ollerton Margaret Wigan 8c 13

Births Dec 1865 (>99%)
Ollerton Mary Ann Wigan 8c 104

Births Jun 1867 (>99%)
Ollerton Hannah Wigan 8c 16

Births Dec 1873 (>99%)
Ollerton James Wigan 8c 42

Births Mar 1875 (>99%)
Ollerton Ellen Wigan 8c 44

Births Dec 1876 (>99%)
Ollerton Michael Wigan 8c 13

Births Mar 1879 (>99%)
Ollerton Jeremiah Wigan 8c 14

Births Jun 1881 (>99%)
OLLERTON Bridget Wigan 8c 17

Ellen's first marriage

Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%)
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Dean James Wigan 8c 143
Ollerton Ellen Wigan 8c 143

Mary husband died very early.

Deaths Mar 1891 (>99%)
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Ollerton Michael 42 Wigan 8c 10

oohhh... haigh is in wigan.... i have been told we do have roots in ireland... there was mention of an aunt bridgett and uncle jerry (jeremiah) i'm sorry i'm not being that helpful am i?

Hey Gillian,

Does that mean you are going for the second option afterall?

I will post what i find for you...

Wayne

oh wow, so ellen's dad is called michael? i've got to go and do something but i'll beback...... you are all so wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with you Mellie...

Gillian, i know this seems harsh, but you cannot go on guesswork, you need to be sure of who you have found before you do anything. We can all help you, but you must be sure of the facts. The 1875 lady has a completely different family profile to the one you are looking for and as Mellie states the other family fits your profile better.

i would say it was the other onr with the misprint myself.

gillian?

Gillian i'll look and see what i can find? Are yu sure you want to go for the Wigan one and not the other one?

It appears the Allerton was mistranscribed cos they are here as Ollerton!

1891 England Census
about Ellen Ollerton
Name: Ellen Ollerton
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Haigh, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Aspull
Ecclesiastical parish: Haigh and Aspull
Town: Parbold
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Aspull
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Grant 18
Annie Ollerton 23
Bridget Ollerton 10
Ellen Ollerton 17
Jeremiah Ollerton 12
Margt Ollerton 7
Mary Ollerton 41
Michael Ollerton 14

it would be the wigan 1875 one, thank you so much..... does it show her death? you are a star

could this be them then.... but not born in Wigan?? .. possibly mistranscribed?

Michael ALLERTON Head M Male 36 Clare Co, Ireland General Labourer At A Colliery
Mary ALLERTON Wife M Female 36 Clare Co, Ireland
Mary ALLERTON Daur U Female 15 Wigan, Lancashire, England Throstle Spinner In A Mill
Honora ALLERTON Daur Female 14 Aspull, Lancashire, England Throstle Spinner In A Mill
James ALLERTON Son Male 8 Aspull, Lancashire, England Scholar
Ellen ALLERTON Daur Female 6 Aspull, Lancashire, England Scholar
Michael ALLERTON Son Male 4 Aspull, Lancashire, England
Jeremiah ALLERTON Son Male 2 Aspull, Lancashire, England
Bridget ALLERTON Daur Female 1 w Aspull, Lancashire, England

Dwelling 4 Church St
Census Place Aspull, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341899
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3759 / 55
Page Number 45

Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%)
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Dean James Wigan 8c 143
Ollerton Ellen Wigan 8c 143

gillian thinks her mum was mary???