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Hi All

A good detective needed please.
Henry Edward Wilkens was born in Westminster 1871/2. Parents of Thomas and Elizabeth. Edward married Elizabeth Sutherland in 1903. Edward lost his life on HMS Cressy in 1914.
I have a ship list dated 1900.It states that at the time on board he was married.So this must have been his first marriage.
I have searched long and hard to try and find this marriage but so far no luck.The only marriage I can find is of him to Elizabeth.
Woulrd really love some help on this.Thankyou.
Dionne

If this is the 1903 one you mean he appears to have married Elizabeth Rossi.



Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%)


Rossi Elizabeth Amelia Lambeth 1d706
Wilkens Henry Edward Lambeth 1d706
Wilkins Henry Edward Lambeth 1d706

Christine

Barry

Thankyou for your help.
I do believe that his ship records are correct. I did also find that some of his family records are spelt Wilkins rather then Wilkens.
I really dont know if he had children from his first marriage and this is what I am trying to find out.
I have a posible link with another family tree.We both have the name of Henry Edward Wilkens,right date of birth etc and place of birth and even HMS Cressy.But this is the only link we have between trees.We have a hunch that he might have had children from his first marriage and this is what we are trying to find out. I am still waiting for his marriage certificate to Elizabeth.

Christine
Thankyou. Yes I should have said Rossi.Sutherland was her maiden name. When she married Edward she had four children from her first husband.
Perhaps he didnt have children from his first marriage but untill I find a record of this marriage it is purely guesswork.

Thanks
Dionne

Good morning

Is there anyone alse out there that could possibly help me?

Many thanks
Dionne

Hi Dionne,

There is this marriage also but I can't check the 1901 census as I don't have Ancestry.

Marriages Sep 1898 (>99%)


Daniel Flora Matilda Holborn 1b 1479
Wilkins Henry Edward Holborn 1b 1479

Christine

Thankyou Christine.

I have looked at this one and it could be a possibility. I am trying to find the date of death for Flora.But so far no luck.

Does anyone know how long it takes for certificates to arrive? I ordered and paid for them just under two weeks ago and so far nothing has turned up.
Thanks Dionne

Hi Dionne,

Possible death of Flora



Deaths Sep 1917 (78%)


WILKINS Flora 40 Wandsworth 1d512


Did you order the certs from GRO as they usually give you a dispatch date.

Christine

Thankyou Christine.
I have found out that the certificates should be sent out today. should be sent today.
Thankyou for the possible death date of Flora.I am now trying to find Flora and Henry on the cencus to see if children were involved but again Im not having much luck.I have been looking for over four hours now,lol.
Dionne

1901 Is this the family?
Name: Flora M Wilkins
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry Edw
Gender: Female
Where born: Hampstead, London, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marylebone and St Thomas Portman Square
County/Island: London


Name: Henry Edw Wilkins
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Flora M
Gender: Male
Where born: Eton, Berkshire, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marylebone and St Thomas Portman Square
County/Island: London


Name: Flora W Wilkins
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry Edw
Mother's Name: Flora M
Gender: Female
Where born: St Pancras, London, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marylebone and St Thomas Portman Square
County/Island: London
Country: England
Janice

Hi Janice.

I too thought this was the family but Im afraid to say that it isnt. Henry was born in 1872.St James Westminster Middlesex..Barry the earlier member may be correct and are the Navy records 100% correct.I would have thought they would have been.This is why I am looking for a first marriage.But perhaps he was never married before he married Elizabeth.My gut feeling tells me he was though.lol
Dionne

Remembering my great Grandfather Henry Edward Wilkens who lost his life on HMS Cressey 1914..

Rest in peace to all who who have lost their lives in the wars.
xxx