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Due to unfortunate circumstances my father lost touch with the Ferguson side of the family, based in Barrow-in-Furness ...... his father Stanley born Jan 1915,and his grandfather John who married Edith Baillie and died in Barrow in 1947. We believe Stanley went to the Manchester area in the 1960's. We would like to trace the Ferguson side back so any info on where John was born (probably Scotland) or his parents would be great. We would also like to know if anybody knows of Stanley and what happened to him after he left Barrow.
Many thanks.

Marriages Sep 1905 (>99%)
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Baillie Edith Mary Barrow F. 8e 1802
FERGUSON John Barrow F. 8e 1802

Births Mar 1915 (98%)
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FERGUSON Stanley Baillie Barrow F. 8e 1380

Have you any idea what Stanley's parent's professions were?

Thanks for the info so far - it matches up with the little info we have. Edith mary Baillie was a dressmaker in her twenties (from census info). Stanley's father John was a Rate Fixer (Engineer) -apparently from Stanley's birth certificate - born late 1866 or early 1867, but we don't know if that was his occupation before he moved to Barrow. It's actually my husband's dad who lost touch with his father Stanley due to a break-up in the family - he doesnt know where he is (or if he's still alive) and has memories from boyhood of his grandfather John but no traceable info. Any help would be greatly appreciated - there are so many John Ferguson's listed that might be him!
Thanks,
Sue

is this your Edith?

1901 England Census
about Edith Baillie
Name: Edith Baillie
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Barrow, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Barrow in Furness
Ecclesiastical parish: Barrow in Furness St George
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Barrow in Furness
Sub-registration district: Barrow in Furness
ED, institution, or vessel: 1

Edith Baillie 28
Ethel Baillie 24
Frederick Baillie 25
Thomas Wilson 22

Having looked at all the John Ferguson's in the area, this one is the most likely in my opinion to be Stanley's father.

1901 England Census
about John Ferguson
Name: John Ferguson
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Head
Mother's Name: Hester
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Forest Gate
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 169
Household Members: Name Age

Ada Ferguson 30
Hester Ferguson 55
John Ferguson 34 <<< Engineer
Maud Ferguson 23
Beatrice Sumner 13
Selina Sumner 17

Hester (John's Mum) the rest of the family has been mistranscribed, can be clearly seen as Ferguson on the image.

1891 England Census
about Hester Ferguson
Name: Hester Ferguson
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Harwich, Essex, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 70
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Hester Ferguson 46
Ada Pattenden 21
Ellen E Pattenden 25
John Pattenden 23 <<< Engineer
Maggie Pattenden 18
Maud Pattenden 15

John again with his family...

1881 England Census
about John Ferguson
Name: John Ferguson
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Hester
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: St Leonard Bromley
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 411 East India Dk Rd (Herbert House)
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Laurie Crawley 20 <<<< Servant!
Hester Ferguson 36
John Ferguson 40
John Ferguson 13
Margaret Ferguson 8
Zellion M. Ferguson 4

Looks like John's father was also called John! Grrr

1881 England Census
about John Ferguson
Name: John Ferguson
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hester
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: St Leonard Bromley
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 411 East India Dk Rd (Herbert House)

your John as a baby...

1871 England Census
about Hester Ferguson
Name: Hester Ferguson
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Harwich, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Ada Ferguson 1
Hester Ferguson 26
John Ferguson 30 <<< Marine Engineer
John Ferguson 3

John senior was born in Scotland as you predicted !!

1871 England Census
about John Ferguson
Name: John Ferguson
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hester
Gender: Male
Where born: Lahark, Lanarkshire (Glasgow), Scotland

A young John as a 2nd Engineer on a boat called the Diana

1861 England Census
about John Ferguson
Name: John Ferguson
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: 2nd Engineer (Engineer)
Gender: Male
Where born: Lanark, Lanarkshire (Glasgow), Scotland

Civil Parish: Vessels
Town: At Sea
County/Island: Misc Ships At Sea or Abroad
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Misc Ships
Sub-registration district: Misc Ships
ED, institution, or vessel: Diana (4)
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Barr 27
Henry J Clark 28
William Doody 19
John Ferguson 22
John Hages 49
Thomas Matthews 33
Henry Oharra 62
John Quirk 49
James Rogan 52

Looks like altho your John was born in Scotland and his parents were Scottish, seems they lived in Northumberland in his formative years. His father was a Schoolmaster.
He's here with his mother Ann and father James, and also his Grandmother i believe (says sister in law to James, but i think they mean mother in law!)

1851 England Census
about John Ferguson
Name: John Ferguson
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Otterburn
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Bellingham
Sub-registration district: Bellingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Ferguson 1 Mo
Ann Ferguson 32
Helen Ferguson 2
James Ferguson 36
John Ferguson 9
Thomas Ferguson 5
Elizabeth Robson 78

*probably* John's birth details...

11/01/1841

FERGUSON, JOHN GILBERT

JAMES FERGUSON/ANN GILBERT FR3724

M, Edinburgh EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN

685/001 0580 0163

Assuming John's birth details are right... this is the marriage of the parents.

11/07/1838

FERGUSON JAMES, ANN GILBERT FR5862

Edinburgh EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN

685/001 0650 0392

I'm sorry to tell you but Stanley died 1Q 1975 in Manchester. 38 1608. Date of Birth declared as 2nd Jan 1915.

Michael

Order the death cert for Stanley it'll tell you who was present at the death.

Can you give me also some dates of when the breakup happened and an idea of how old Stanley was, if Stanley was younger than 30/40 then there is a chance there could be another marriage and more children !

I can do some searches for you, but i need some idea of a time line

Wayne