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Its the Mormons site - familysearch.org -they have a large number of parish records but not all - Norfolk, for instance, refused to hand them over. Always check that the record is extracted rather than submitted as there are some horrendously inaccurate submissions from members on there.

Thanks Angela. Where did you find that out IGI whats that ?

Actually, forget that marriage. According to the IGI, Robert Proctor married Mary Ann Brown.

Angela

Looks interesting. I`m gonna have to think about that one. God this could make you go mad !

I found a possible on1871, father Robert mother Betsy. Living in Blackburn, Lancs. but then I can`t find a follow on in 1881. Only I when the dad is a show man,and another Robert living in a workhouse with his mum Mary aged 39 and sister Sarah aged 6. But known of them lead on from one another!!! Nightmare !!!!

I've found this marriage - note the name Chamberlain! Could be a co-incidence.

Marriages Sep 1858 (>99%)
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Box John Stepney 1c 925
Brown Mary Ann Stepney 1c 925
Chamberlain Maria Alpha Stepney 1c 925
Proctor Robert Stepney 1c 925


Angela

Karen

I've just found this birth:

Robert Proctor
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Poplar (To 1965)
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 659 (click to see others on page)

I can't find that census info that Rose found?

Angela

Yes I do have ancestry. I`ll check it out . Thanks

do you have ancestry karen there was a robert proctor age 2 at poplar bow on 1871 census not that far from bethanel green

Also both living in bethnal green when married.

Sorry Just got back from school run. The occupation for Robert on the marriage cert is Labourer and for his father I can`t work it out but looks like Hawker ???
Witnesses were Charles and Sarah Ann CHamberlain.

Had another look at the job - theres a bloke on previous page where it is easier to read, same job, looks like Colander man - hemp.

Cant make out at all what that first letter on place of birth is supposed to be??? If you look down the page the enumerator uses it twice again - in one case followed by a ditto

What are the occupation details for him and for the father on the marriage cert? And where was the marriage? What address is given as residence? Who are the witnesses?

I can't work out what Robert's birthplace is in 1891, except it says Middx. Nor can I work out his occupation, something worker - looks like hemp written over the top?

Angela

It could but I still never got any further with it or the Blumor name. I just wish there was a way I could find out more about Robert before marriage. All I have is his father was also Robert !!! That just made it harder !

Just had a look meself and yes it says Border for Mary and in fact his birth place looks like Stratford again?

On the marriage cert was is his occupation and what is the fathers occupation and who are the witnesses

If it says sister in law (and Angela says it actually says boarder )then it could mean step sister.

Im glad you have Angela...We've asked questions on her other thread and had no reply

I've had a pm from Karen:

Hi thanks for helping. I have seen the 1891 census but ruled that out as Mary Blumor is sister in law and I took that as being Harrietts sister and i know my Harriett had a sister Eliza and her maiden name was Griggs. Its just such a mystery where he came from before they married ??

From Karen


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Karen, the image doesn't say sister in law. I think it says border (boarder?)

Angela