Joseph Lee b~: 1841 and his wife Ann Sarah xxxx b~: 1841 Both in Clerkenwell. had 6 children. 1871 census living at 6 Barretts Buildings, in Shoreditch 1881 at 50 Hertford Road, Hackney. they had 6 known children:-
JOSEPH WILLIAM LEE (2), born 1st quarter 1863 Shoreditch. living at 7 Collingwood Place, Bethnal Green. Married Kate Elizabeth White. This Joseph is my Gt. Grandfather. I think the previous Joseph and Ann Sarah are his parents but can find no definate link. Can anyone help please Dave.
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BUT BUT
on the 1871 Census there is young Joseph with Joseph and Ann??
1871 Census
Name: Joseph Lee Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew Hoxton County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Haggerston West ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 556 Household Members: Name Age Ann Lee 33 b.ca 1838, Clerkenwell Ann Lee 8 b.ca 1863, Shoreditch Caroline Lee 2 b.ca 1869, Shoreditch Joseph Lee 25 Carman Joseph Lee 7 b.ca 1864, Shoreditch
Address:- 6 Barretts Buildings, Shoreditch
sylvia
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To get the definitive proof you HAVE to buy his birth certificate. You will not be able to prove it without the certificate.
There were actually 3 Joseph Lee born in Shoreditch in 1863 and 1864!
Births Mar 1863 (>99%) LEE Joseph Shoreditch 1c 94
Births Mar 1864 (>99%) LEE Joseph Shoreditch 1c 189
Births Jun 1864 (>99%) LEE Joseph Charles Shoreditch 1c 206
To order a certificate, go to www.gro.gov.uk, click on Ordering Certificates Online in the box to the right of the screen, follow instructions. It will ask if you ahve the GRO reference number, say YES, the numbers are to the right of Shoreditch, eg 1c 94 for the March 1863 Joseph.
Each certificate will cost £7
sylvia
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Possible marriage of Joseph senior
Marriages Jun 1861 (>99%) House Ann Shoreditch 1c 339 Lee Joseph Shoreditch 1c 339
Getting this certificate will give you the names of the two fathers and their occupations.
sylvia
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and here are the two Josephs on the 1881 Census
1881 Census
Name: Joseph Lee Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah A. Gender: Male Where born: Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St John Hackney County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 50 Hertford Rd Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Labourer At Lime Wharf (Lime Burner) Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: West Hackney ED, institution, or vessel: 22a Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Glasco 21 son-in-law, Chair & Couch Maker Sarah A. Glasco 20 daughter Charlotte Homs 5 Boarder Emma Homs 28 " Sarah Homs 3 " William Homs 29 " Caroline Lee 11 George J. Lee Joseph Lee 40 Joseph Lee 18 Labourer at Lime Wharf Robert Lee 8 Sarah A. Lee 40 William Lee 11 Address:- 50 Hertford Road
These censuses both ahve Joseph Lee with parents Joseph and Sarah
so that is circumstantial evidence.
Now you need his birth certificate for the proof.
sylvia
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Hi Sylvia Thanks for your time & effort. I had located "most" of thisb but as you say it is circumstantial evidence. I already have 1c - 94 and that is not him. I don't think I have found the other 2, so will investigate and let you know. Our family data is on our web site that I produce at www.familytreeweb.co.uk. Best regards Dave Lee UK
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