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I can't find either of these brothers after the 1851 census -

Nathaniel Barnett b. abt. 1835 Covent Garden, London and
Simon Barnett b. June Qtr. 1843 Covent Garden
On the 1851 Census, the family is living at 71 Judd Street, Gray's Inn, London. Father Benjamin is a Tobacconist, mother Charlotte.

Can anyone find any trace of them please?

1861

Could this be Nathaniel

1861

Name: Nathl Barnett
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Private
Gender: Male
Where born: Hackney, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Vessels
Town: Portland Roads
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Anglesey
Sub-registration district: Holyhead
ED, institution, or vessel: Colossus

Simon, still with Parents....

1861
Name: Simeon Barnet
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's name: Benjamin
Mother's name: Charlotte
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: St Olaves Union Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Barnet 50
Charlotte Barnet 48
Rebecca Barnet 20
Sarah Barnet 14
Simeon Barnet 17
Esther Derbois 18

I have found a Nathl Barnett b.1835 Hackney Middlesex on the 1861 Census, he is a Private on board the Colossus which was berthed in Portland Rd Dorset. No luck with Simon

Regards
Gary

Carrie - that's definitely the family in 1861. Oh dear in the workhouse!!

Could be Nathaniel - don't understand why the place is given as Dorset and Anglesey?

Do Simon and Nathaniel show on subsequent censuses? I have the parents -
On the 1871 census, Benjamin and Charlotte are living in St Olave, Southwark
On the 1881 census, Benjamin and Charlotte are living at 141 Grange Road, Bermondsey. Benjamin is a Commercial Traveller.

At least they got out of the Workhouse

Nathaniel is on Board ship and Dorset is the area he is in....Hmmm, see what you mean?

looking for 1871

Thanks for your help Carrie. I don't have an address fro Benjamin and Cahrlotte in 1871 just St Olave's so perhaps they were still in the workhouse

Liverpool has been crossed out, nothing replaced it but others are Islington.

Name: Simeon Barnett
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Phylis
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool

Civil parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 76 Winston Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Commercial Traveller

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: Stoke Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Gertrude Barnett
Maude Barnett 2
Phylis Barnett 26
Simeon Barnett 36
Julia Bush 19
Lillias Pearson 22

Not too sure about this one?

1871
Benjamin and Charlotte

140 Grays Inn Road, Bermondsey, Surrey

Nathaniel is more then probable, away at sea..

I saw that Liverpool one, but dismissed it cos of Liverpool, but if as you say it is crossed out could be a possibility. Have to find that family 91 & 01

Yes Nathaniel was probably serving away but can't see him after that either, so away all the time..?

Nothing positive after that, all others Seem to be other people... may try later for you, when I have more time..

I have got Simeom/Simon in 1901 still birthplace Liverpool so I am not convinced he is 'mine', unless he was very confused...or up to something!!

Appreciate you time and help Carrie.

I wonder!

1880 United States Federal Census
about Nathaniel Barnett
Name: Nathaniel Barnett
Home in 1880: New York (Manhattan), New York City-Greater, New York
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
BIRTHPLACE: England
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Annie
Father's birthplace: England
Mother's birthplace: England
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Merchant
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
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Household Members: Name Age
Nathaniel Barnett 45
Annie Barnett 42
Lulu Barnett 20
Bertram Barnett 16
Maurice Barnett 15
Minnie Barnett 13
Leon H. Barnett 10
Sarah Barnett 2
Alice H. Rhine 30
Leonie Lowengrund 26
Rachel Van Biel 21
Annie B. Lowengrund 12
Barbara Pooletzki 32
Louise Pooletzki 15
Kate Monahan 31
Matilda Tscharchtly 24


He was also there in 1871. Anyone got the free Worldwide trial?

Claire, ooo that looks good. Great names!

Whilst the 1861 does say "workhouse" from the original image, I don't think this is correct. Benjamin is a tobacconist & Simon a natutical instrument maker

Well that fits Benjamin. I can't see Nathaniel on the Ellis Island Site passenger lists, perhaps he shows on Ancestry?? Looking on the SS death lists now. I think I'll start a thread to ask for US census info to try to confirm this Nat is mine.

Thank you Claire - this looking hopeful