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hi im trying to find out about this man ,i believe he was a master blacksmith in the newborough/peterborough area .
thankyou in advance michelle stewart

Hi michelle

do you know which year he was born in?
I've found these 2 Blacksmiths living side by side:

1901 England Census
about William Saywell

Name: William Saywell
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Norton Disney, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Newborough
Ecclesiastical parish: Newborough St Bartholomew
Town: Newborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Peterborough
Sub-registration district: Crowland
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Saywell 65
Sarah Elizabeth Saywell 43
William Saywell 72




1901 England Census
about William A Saywell

Name: William A Saywell
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rebecca
Gender: Male
Where born: Newborough, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Newborough
Ecclesiastical parish: Newborough St Bartholomew
Town: Newborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Peterborough
Sub-registration district: Crowland
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 114
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Butters 82 Mother in Law
Rebecca Saywell 41
Ursula May Saywell 5
William A Saywell 38
William S N Saywell 16



Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1467; Folio: 72; Page: 19.


Are you trying to move forwards or backwards?

Michelle looking at earlier census details ( in particular the 1871 ) both William's above in 1901 are in fact as I thought related as Father & Son....


1871 England Census
about William Alfred Saywell

Name: William Alfred Saywell
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Newborough, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Newborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub-registration district: Crowland
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Saywell 35
Sarah Elizabeth Saywell 13
William Saywell 40
William Alfred Saywell 8


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1520; Folio: 108; Page: 9; GSU roll: 829777.

hi thankyou ,my great great grandfather was indentured to a william saywell in 1871 newborough for five years , my gggrandfather had been in workhouse .but was then sponsered by a solicitor samuel charles watson buckle i was just filling in some gaps really ,trying to get a full picture if you know what i mean .
i have tried to find my gggrandfather on census 1881 but have never found him listed so was just seeing if he was with william saywell maybe

Would you like to give details of your GG Grandfather name, year & place of birth parents if known....... perhaps a member like myself can help you search for him on the 1881 census??

my gggrandfathers details are john blackham born 1858 peterborough .
was in workhouse 1861 ,1871
cant find him in 1881

married agnes levina rimes 1882 mkt harborough
1891 was in peterborough stpauls rd
1901 was in peterborough bright street
am desperate to find out where he was in 1881 would be very grateful for any help

new fletton peterborough place of birth

single mother sarah blackham born 1839 toadmoor heage derbyshire
her and son were in lodging in 1861 but son was in workhouse 1871

Can't spot him at present......did the marriage certificate give an address? Was his occupation that of a Blacksmith in 1882?

Cant see him even using soundex on surname or no surname at all just place of births............have you thought he may well be fighting in the first Boer War?

Does he have a middle name? May he be recorded under that?

oh i never even thought of the boer war hmm how would i go about finding out that info ?

yes he was a master blacksmith when he got married and was living in great bowden which is near mkt harborough on marriage cert

Have you been able to rule this chap out working as cook in the Ashton household:

1881 England Census
about J. Blackham

Name: J. Blackham
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Leamingham, Lincoln, England
Civil Parish: Lubenham
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Occupation: Cook

Registration district: Market Harborough
Sub-registration district: Market Harborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 7


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3120; Folio: 16; Page: 23; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341744.

he didnt have a middle name think it is unusual most people were given middle names around that time but think his mum sarah was illiterate maybe i know she was blind/deaf/dumb maybe thats the reason why or maybe just because he was born illegitimate ?

oh havent seen that one before very interesting diff year of birth and place of birth but right area

was the ashton family a reverend ashton by any chance ?

aww bless her.

Not sure sadly how to help with regards to the first Boer war. If he's on the 1881 census then he's very well hidden lol

hi debi could you please include the household names ashton that he was living with as a cook please have a prayer book inscribed 1876 newborough was a rev ashton i think

No Ashton was a Farmer with Land ( 1040 acres)


Household Members:
Name Age
C. Ashton 10
F. Ashton 4
F.S. Ashton 13
H.C. Ashton 16
J.H. Ashton 21
John Ashton 49
L.M. Ashton 12
Mary Ashton 41
Mary E. Ashton 23
S.A. Ashton 11
J. Blackham 28
A.C. Gould 23
Susan Sharp 26
E. Watts 20

am so excited might have got the right one