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Thanks for your efforts everyone - I have some fantastic new leads to investigate:-)

I'm looking for Dorothy Lapish of Gauxholme, Todmorden on the 1841 Census - She's not at home with the rest of the family so figured she must be out with the Tin Man, Scarecrow and Cowardly Lion!!!

Dorothy was born in approx 1797 in Oldham and married John Lapish in 1819. John is at home on the 1841 census with 2 boys and what looks like Dorothy's father (William Sutcliffe).

Try as I might, I just can't track her down at all:-( I have got her with the rest of the family on the 1851 census which is H.O107/2289 Folio570 p 43.

For reference her husband John is on H.O107/552 Folio 14 p20 (I think:-)

It would be fantastic if one of you super sleuths could find her.

Many thanks in advance

Bacardi XX

Wheres John on the 1841 as that reference isn't working for me

I put in just the 552 with Lap* and he appeared OK - some other Sutcliffes further down the page as well.

Julie

I can get to John Lapish on Ancestry by putting his name in and giving Lancashire as the county, Rochdale as the Civil Parish and Salford as the Hundred and he is the first one that comes up on the list (birth about 1801 and with children John and Thomas).

Thanks

Bacardi XX

1841 try:

H.O107/552 Folio 4 p10

Andy

Bacardi, have you tracked down Elizabeth Wood on the 1841 census (the 16 yr old niece on the 1851)? And whose is Mary Cropley (the granddaughter aged 9 in 1851)?

Andy

What do I need to put in for that search as if I only put in H.O 0107/552 Folio 4 p10 I dont get anything:-(

Thanks

Bacardi X

Sorry, should have pasted,

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 552; Book: 4; Civil Parish: Rochdale; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 29; Folio: 14; Page: 20; Line: 3; GSU roll: 306935.


Andy

page 20

Andy - thanks - thats my guy:-)

Ivy - no and no - I haven't had any success with them either:-( Until today, I didn't even know when Dorothy and John got married - managed to track down the marriage details with a trip to Halifax Local Studies Library:-) so only now in a position to try and find any other siblings of John and Thomas.

Bacardi XX

Umm, a Dor* Wood/Cropley brought no results for 1841. Also tried Google - is it your entry on Curious Fox in Mar 06, or would this be another researcher?

Yes, with a marriage in 1819 and no children in 1841 before the one born around 1831it does look as if there are other siblings to be found...

Ivy

Just had a quick check on Curious Fox and yes thats me - it was the last time I visited this particular line - but am now giving them another shot.

I think there are definately other siblings around - there must be for a granddaughter to get a mention on the census, so I think another trip to Halifax is on the cards to check the baptism records (unfortunately I ran out of time today)

Bacardi XX

There is an Elizabeth Lapish marrying in Leeds in 1838 - 4 names of grooms to choose from - one is Geo Crosby - could Cropley/Crosby be a mistranscription? I'll have a look for them.

- there's never enough time, is there? - just been given my five minute warning by OH to free up computer for him, sorry

Thanks for the tip re library - must try it myself - OH's family are from that area.

Will check back to the thread over the w/e - all the best for now

Ivy

Thanks for your help - will have a look at the crosbys before I call it a night - I'm getting a headache keep scrolling through the census pages on ancestry.

Take Care

Bacardi XX

Found this on Findmypast.

RG number
HO107 Piece:
586 Book/Folio:
15/8 Page:
11

Registration District:
Salford Union Sub District:
Regent Road EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Manchester Municipal Borough:
Salford Address:
New Bailey House Of Correction, Manchester


LAPISH, Dorothy F 45 Lancashire


One of many names in the House of Correction.Might not be your Dorothy, but thought I'd post as she was the only one I could find of around the right age on Findmypast.

Sue

1841

RG number:HO107 Piece:586 Book/Folio:15/8 Page:11

Address:New Bailey House Of Correction, Manchester, Salford

Registration District:Salford Union
Sub District:Regent Road
Civil Parish:Manchester
Municipal Borough:Salford

According to Findmypast she should be there.

Dorothy Lapish age 45

Sue,

You beat me to it

Maureen


No wonder she could not be found easily
County is Leicestershire
Civil Parish is Manchester

She is listed as Sopish

Aah, I did find an Elizabeth Wood with her family in an institution in 1841 aged 6 - the place was full of families - had the authorities just demolished another street to make way for a railway? Or is 1841 a little too early for that?

Will see if I can find the reference again

Hmm, perhaps not the right Elizabeth. I found two by looking for her with Rochdale as the keyword and born 1835 +/- 1:

Class: HO107; Piece 1279; Book: 10; Civil Parish: Rochdale; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: Saddleworth Workhouse; Folio: 64; Page: 3; Line: 23; GSU roll: 464247.

and

Class: HO107; Piece 1279; Book: 10; Civil Parish: Rochdale; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 15; Folio: 54; Page: 7; Line: 12; GSU roll: 464247.