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Trying to find my information about any of the following people.
Mother - Evelyn Dowding: 1880 - 1973 (Michinhampton)
Father - Lorenza Cleverly/changed his name to - Henry/Harry Stephen Baker: 1873- 1952 (cirencester)
Thier children- (not in order)
Daisy Thelma: 1925 - present
Charles Ernest: 1913 - 1986
Annie Ruth: 1907 - 1954
Lillian: ???? - ????
Phylis: ???? - ????
Mabel: ???? - ????
Violet: 1914 - ????
Evelyn: 1920 - ????
Margaret: 1918 - ????
Gladys: 1917 - ?????
Harry: ???? - ????
Lynden Hurbert: 1922 - ????
Leslie Ronald: 1923 - ????
Kate: ???? - ????
All children i think we're born in cardiff.

Harry and Evelyn got married in 1922 in cardiff

My nan lost contact with all his brothers and sister.

even if you dont recognise all the names, but maybe one, give me a shout it be a great help for me!

Hi,
I'm the grandson of Gladys in your list. I've recently started my family tree and have had diffiulty looking into Lorenza. i was unsure if this was his birth name or Henry Baker was as on his marriage bans to Evelyn in 1922, he put his father's anme down as Baker too. i hope you find this message though as I can see your original reuest was from nearly 20 years ago

Welcome to the boards Michael.

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Lorenza Stephen Henry Cleverly was born in 1872 in Cirencester district
He was baptised 17th August 1873 in Quenington
Father Stephen, mother Annie Elizabeth

Died as Cleverly in Cardiff district in 1952

Find the parents’ marriage on either freebmd or GlosBMD. The latter site is absolutely invaluable for GlosBMD records.

Interesting to see that Lorenza used his middle names, reversed. I wonder if his mother had remarried at some time to a Baker.

CLEVERLY, LORENZA STEPHEN HENRY mmn HAZLEY
GRO Reference: 1872 D Quarter in CIRENCESTER Volume 06A Page 353


Marriages Mar 1872 (>99%)
CLEVERLEY Stephen Cirencester 6a 548
Hazley Annie Cirencester 6a 548

Able now to C&P


CLEVERLY Elizabeth Anne C HAZLEY 1873 Cirencester Northleach, Bibury 9 48
CLEVERLY Lorenza Stephen H HAZLEY 1872 Cirencester Cirencester, Cirencester 24 386
CLEVERLY Honor Jane S HAZLEY 1876 Cirencester Cirencester, Cirencester 27 110


Marriage
CLEVERLEY Stephen HAZLEY Annie Cirencester Cirencester Register Office 1872 4 35

Death
CLEVERLY Stephen 31 1880 Cirencester, Cirencester 19 382

Re-marriage
BATEMAN Edward CLEVERLY Annie Elizabeth Cirencester Cirencester Register Office 1881 5 73


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Village, South Cerney, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England

Edwin Bateman Head Married Male 25 1856 General laborer South Cerney, Gloucestershire, England
Annie Bateman Wife Married Female 31 1850 Knitter (stocking) (hos mfr) Ewen, Gloucestershire, England
Lorenzo Cleverley Stepson Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Somerford Keynes, Wiltshire, England
Elizabeth Cleverley Step daughter Single Female 7 1874 Scholar Coln St Aldwyns, Gloucestershire, England
Honor Cleverley Step daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Gloucestershire, England


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Monkton Lane, Winterbourne Monkton, Marlborough, Wiltshire, England
Edwin Bateman Head Married Male 36 1855 Agricultural labourer South Cerney, Gloucestershire, England
Annie E Bateman Wife Married Female 41 1850 Seamstress Kemble, Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth A Cleverly Daughter Single Female 17 1874 Mothers help Gloucestershire, England
James Fulding Lodger Single Male 19 1872 Carters helper Easterton, Wiltshire, England

By 1881 Annie is with Edwin Bateman:

Annie Bateman
in the 1881 England Census
Name Annie Bateman
Age 31
Estimated Birth Year abt 1850
Relationship to Head Wife
Spouse Edwin Bateman
Gender Female
Where born Ewen, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish South Cerney
County/Island Gloucestershire
Country England
Street Address Village
Marital Status Married
Occupation Knitter (Stocking) (Hos Mfr)
Registration district Cirencester
ED, institution, or vessel 12
Neighbors
Piece 2555
Folio 112
Page number 12
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Edwin Bateman 25 Head
Annie Bateman 31 Wife
Lorenzo Cleverley 8 Step Son
Elizabeth Cleverley 7 Step Daughter
Honor Cleverley 4 Step Daughter

Name Amelia Ethel Cleverly
Baptism Date 11 Nov 1901
Baptism Place Swindon, St Mark, Wiltshire, England
Parish as it Appears S. Mark Swindon
Father Lorenzo Stephen Cleverly
Mother Eliza Ann Cleverly

1921 Census Of England & Wales
38, Milton Street, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales

Henry Stephen Baker Head Male 1867 54 Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England Crown Ferelf Works Foreman Broath Dock Leeman Crown Fuel Works Roath Dock Cardiff Foreman
Evelyn Baker Wife Female 1880 41 Minchinhampton, Gloucestershire, England House Duties -
Annie Ruth Baker Daughter Female 1906 15 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Domestic -
Mabel Doris Baker Daughter Female 1907 14 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England School -
Henry Stephen Baker Son Male 1909 12 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England School -
Phyllis Christina Baker Daughter Female 1910 10 Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales School -
Violet May Baker Daughter Female 1914 7 Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales School -
Charles Earnest Baker Son Male 1913 8 Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales School -
Gladys Muriel Baker Daughter Female 1916 4 Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales School -
Margaret Baker Daughter Female 1917 3 Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales Home -
Evelyn Baker Daughter Female 1920 - Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales Home -

Annie Ruth crossed-out on image



BAKER, ANNIE RUTH DOWDING
GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 16
BAKER, LILY MAUD DOWDING
GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 4
BAKER, MABEL DORIS DOWDING
GRO Reference: 1907 S Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 12
BAKER, HARRY STEPHEN DOWDING
GRO Reference: 1909 J Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 169
BAKER, CHARLES ERNEST DOWDING
GRO Reference: 1913 M Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 748
BAKER, PHYLLIS CHRISTINA DOWDING
GRO Reference: 1910 S Quarter in OF CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 454
BAKER, VIOLET MAY DOWDING
GRO Reference: 1914 M Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 793
BAKER, GLADYS HETTY MURIEL DOWDING
GRO Reference: 1917 D Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 591
BAKER, KATE DOWDING
GRO Reference: 1916 J Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 698
BAKER, MARGARET DOWDING
GRO Reference: 1918 S Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 683
BAKER, LESLIE RONALD DOWDING
GRO Reference: 1923 D Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 661
BAKER, LYNDEN HERBERT DOWDING
GRO Reference: 1922 J Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 668
BAKER, EVELYN DOWDING
GRO Reference: 1920 D Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 747
BAKER, DAISY THELMA DOWDING
GRO Reference: 1925 J Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 642


Marriages Jun 1922 (>99%)
BAKER Henry S Dowding Cardiff 11a 785
DOWDING Evelyn Baker Cardiff 11a 785

1911 Census For England & Wales
19 Carn St Cathays Cardiff, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
Henry Baker Head Married Male 41 1870 General labour Swindon Wilts
Evelyln Baker Wife Married Female 30 1881 - Milchinhampton Glostershire
Elizabeth Baker Daughter Married Female 11 1900 Schooll Pontypridd Glamorgan
Lilly Baker Daughter - Female 6 1905 - Bristol Glostershire
Annie Baker Daughter - Female 5 1906 - Bristol Glostershire
Mabel Baker Daughter - Female 3 1908 - Bristol Glostershire
Henry Baker Son - Male 1 1910 - Bristol Glostershire
Philis Baker Daughter - Female 0 1911 - Cardiff Glamorganshire

Deaths Jun 1952 (>99%)
Cleverly Lorenza S H 79 Cardiff 8b 100

Deaths Jun 1952 (>99%)
BAKER Henry S 79 Cardiff 8b 100

IMAGE of death cert on Ancestry

Changed his name because of this, I expect

Marriages Sep 1892 (>99%)
Cleverly Lorenza Stephen H Highworth 5a 61
Filor Eliza Ann Highworth 5a 61


She also re-married........eventually
Name Eliza A Cleverly
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec 1925
Registration district Swindon
Inferred County Wiltshire
Spouse Frederick W Dangerfield
Volume Number 5a
Page number 80

1921 Census Of England & Wales
31, Armstrong Street, Swindon, Chiseldon, Wiltshire, England
Frederick W Dangerfield Head Male 1878 43 Swindon, Wiltshire, England House Decorator Dymond, Commercial Rd, Swindon
Eliza Dangerfield Wife Female 1876 44 Swindon, Wiltshire, England Home Duties -
Minnie Hinton Daughter Female 1902 18 Swindon, Wiltshire, England - -
Irene Dangerfield Daughter Female 1914 7 Swindon, Wiltshire, England - -
Peggy Dangerfield Daughter Female 1917 4 Swindon, Wiltshire, England - -
Freedia Hinton Granddaughter Female 1920 - Swindon, Wiltshire, England -


Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
CLEVERLY Irene M Filer Swindon 5a 56


Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Hinton Minnie F Dangerfield Swindon 5a 81
HINTON, MINNIE FREEDIA DANGERFIELD
GRO Reference: 1920 S Quarter in SWINDON Volume 05A Page 81

Marriages Jun 1920 (>99%)
Dangerfield Minnie Hinton Swindon 5a 67
Hinton William F Dangerfield Swindon 5a 67

Births Jun 1923 (>99%)
Hinton Joan V Dangerfield Swindon 5a 43

1911 Census For England & Wales
31 Armstrong St Swindon, Swindon, Wiltshire, England
Frederick Dangerfield Head Married Male 33 1878 House painter Wiltshire Swindon
Eliza Dangerfield Wife Married Female 34 1877 - Wiltshire Swindon
Ethel D Dangerfield Daughter - Female 13 1898 - Wiltshire Swindon
Frederick Dangerfield Son - Male 11 1900 - Wiltshire Swindon
Reginald Dangerfield Son - Male 9 1902 - Wiltshire Swindon
Minnie Dangerfield Daughter - Female 8 1903 - -
George Kimble Boarder Married Male 34 1877 Striker blacksmith Wiltshire Swindon
George Kimble Son - Male 11 1900 - Wiltshire Swindon



CLEVERLY, MINNIE DANGERFIELD FILOR
GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in SWINDON Volume 05A Page 16


CLEVERLY, AMELIA ETHEL FILOR
GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in HIGHWORTH Volume 05A Page 19
CLEVERLY, FLORENCE MAY MATILDA FILOR
GRO Reference: 1896 M Quarter in HIGHWORTH Volume 05A Page 35
CLEVERLY, FRANCIS REGINALD FILOR
GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in SWINDON Volume 05A Page 26
CLEVERLY, FREDERICK WILLIAM DANGERFIELD FILOR
GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in SWINDON Volume 05A Page 20
CLEVERLY, PERCIVAL ERNEST FILOR
GRO Reference: 1904 D Quarter in SWINDON Volume 05A Page 25

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
33, Catherine Street, Swindon, Wiltshire, England
Frederick W Dangerfield Head Single Male 23 1878 Painter Swindon, Wiltshire, England
Eliza A Cleverly Living with above Married Female 24 1877 Charwoman Swindon, Wiltshire, England
Florence M M Cleverly Boarder Single Female 5 1896 - Swindon, Wiltshire, England
Amelia E Cleverly Boarder Single Female 3 1898 - Swindon, Wiltshire, England
Fred W D Cleverly Boarder Single Male 1 1900 - Swindon, Wiltshire, England
William A Filor Boarder Single Male 16 1885 Machinist rway engine Swindon, Wiltshire, England
Florence G Filor Boarder Single Female 14 1887 - Swindon, Wiltshire, England
Lily M Filor Boarder Single Female 12 1889 - Swindon, Wiltshire, England

Name Frederick William Dangerfield Cleverly
Death Date 12 Mar 1979
Death Place Swindon
Probate Date 5 Sep 1979
Probate Registry Oxford

Name Percival Ernst Dangerfield
Baptism Date 4 Oct 1905
Baptism Place Swindon, St Mark, Wiltshire, England
Parish as it Appears St Mark
Father Frederick William Dangerfield
Mother Eliza Ann Cleverly

Name Percival Ernest Cleverly
Age 1
Estimated Birth Year abt 1904
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Death Registration Place Swindon, Wiltshire, United Kingdom
Death Date Dec 1905
Inferred Death Place Wiltshire, United Kingdom
Volume 5a
Page 7

RE : 1921 Census Of England & Wales
31, Armstrong Street, Swindon, Chiseldon, Wiltshire, England
Frederick W Dangerfield Head Male 1878 43 Swindon, Wiltshire, England House
Decorator

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UK, WWI, Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923

Full Name Dangerfield, Frederick
Alias [Blank]
Birth Date 1877
Discharge Date 15 Jul 1919
Service Number 307710
Address 31 Armstrong Street, Swindon, Wilts
Gender Male
Rank Pte
Regiment Tanks
Service Branch Military (Army)
Household ID [Blank]
Year Range 1914 - 1926
Reference Number 8 MD 15_498183
Document Number 8/MD/No1516
Archive Location London, England
Archive Name Western Front Association
Conflict Period World War I
Served For United Kingdom

Disability- GSW Left Arm

UK, WWI, Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923
Full Name Dangerfield, Frederick
Service Number
307710, 520271

520271 -Royal Engineers
At some point during his service he was with the Royal Engineers. I suspect RE first then Tanks, as Tanks did not appear until 1916.....unless it is a clerical error.

Full Name Dangerfield, Frederick W
Rank Name Private
Service Number 307710
NA Url /details/r/D2076125
NA Years 1914-1920
Regiment Tank Corps
Archive Reference WO 372/5/159556
Conflict Period World War I
Served For United Kingdom

award Victory Medal
award British War Medals

Name Henry Stephen Baker
Gender Male
Marriage Age 54
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date 1868
Marriage Date 24 Apr 1922
Marriage Place Roath St Margaret, Glamorganshire, Wales
Father Stephen Baker, deceased, Soldier
Spouse Evelyn Dowding
Father Edward Dowding
Page number 230
The groom said he was a widower................clearly untrue, so both he and his first wife were actually bigamsts, as no divorce had been sought
When Lorenzo was baptiised, his father was a Labourer.

Name Stephen Cleverly
Age 31
Birth Date abt 1849
Burial Date 13 Feb 1880
Burial Place South Cerney, Gloucestershire, England


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Poulton, Cirencester, Wiltshire & Gloucestershire, England
Henry Cleverly Head - Male 48 1823 ? Creiton, Wiltshire, England
Ann Cleverly Wife - Female 46 1825 - Wiltshire, England
Stephen Cleverly Son - Male 20 1851 Labourer Wiltshire, England
Henry Cleverly Son - Male 8 1863 - South Cerney, Gloucestershire, England


CLEVERLEY, - LAWS
GRO Reference: 1863 M Quarter in CIRENCESTER UNION Volume 06A Page 340

Name Henry Cleverley
Gender Male
Marriage Age 22
Birth Date abt 1822
Marriage or Bann Date 25 May 1844
Marriage or Bann Place Overton, Wiltshire
Father Thos Cleverley
Spouse Ann Laws
Father Stephen Laws




Name Henry Laws Cleverley
Event Type Baptism
Baptism Date 9 Feb 1860
Baptism Place South Cerney, Gloucestershire, England
Father Henry Cleverley
Mother Ann Cleverley

Name Henry Laws Cleverley
Age 0
Birth Date abt 1860
Burial Date 12 Feb 1860
Burial Place South Cerney, Gloucestershire, England

DOWDING Evelyn SPARKS 1880 Stroud, Minchinhampton 11 433

1881
Name Evelyn Dowding
Relationship to Head Granddaughter
Gender Female
Where born Minchinhampton, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish Minchinhampton
County/Island Gloucestershire
Country England
Street Address 11 Park Terrace
Registration district Stroud
ED, institution, or vessel 1
Neighbors View others on page
Piece 2549
Folio 18
Page number 32
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Jane Sparks 63 Head
Joseph Sparks 23 Son
Evelyn Dowding Granddaughter
Lucy J. Wise 11 Boarder