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If anyone has access to the 1841 census could you please see if you can look up a John Webb born around 1798 in Cambridgeshire.

John had 2 sons William b:1822 and John b:1825 who both married and lived in Bourn Cambridgeshire.

Hope this is enough information
Regards
Marie

There is this one, but on the later censuses there are other possibilities. Can you post a census which you do have him on, so that we can get more details to look back

John Webb
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1799
Gender: Male
Where born: Cambridgeshire, England

Civil parish: Castle Camps
Hundred: Chilford
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England


Registration district: Linton
Sub-registration district: Linton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Webb 41
John Webb 42
Mary Webb 2
Sarah Webb 5
Susan Webb 11

1861

John Webb
Age: 63
Estimated birth year: abt 1798
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Dullingham, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil parish: Dullingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Ely
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England


Registration district: Newmarket
Sub-registration district: Cheveley
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Smith 7 Mo
Matilda Smith 22
William Smith 26
John Webb 63
Mary Webb 55


or

John Webb
Age: 63
Estimated birth year: abt 1798
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Gt Morden, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil parish: Guilden Morden
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Registration district: Royston
Sub-registration district: Royston
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
John Webb 63
Mary Webb 62

Very puzzling!!!!
The only info I have on John b:abt 1798 is that he is the father of William and John. I came across John senior on Family Search.org when looking for William and johns parents. I found on the Cambs history site and family search that they were both born father not known but mother as illeg to Amey.
I found that John was the father in Williams marriage to Sarah Fairey 16 nov 1840 Bourn Cambs.
I thought by looking at the earliest possible census I would be able to finf more about John senior.

Would you be able to find him with these extra details given.

I assume that this is the baptism for the mother of William and John

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0


AMIE WEBBE Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
28 FEB 1802 Bourn, Cambridge, England


Parents:
Father: WILLIAM WEBBE Family
Mother: ELIZABETH


WILLIAM WEBB Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
01 SEP 1822 Bourn, Cambridge, England

Parents:
Mother: AMEY WEBB Family


JOHN WEBB Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
27 APR 1825 Bourn, Cambridge, England


Parents:
Mother: AMEY WEBB

If Amey was the mother of these two boys, I assume they were both illegitimate.
I don't understand where you found the fathers name. If it was just written on the marriage certificate for one of the boys, I think that it was fairly common for them to invent a name to put on the form to cover the shame of being illegitimate. Or if Amey eventually married, it could have been the first name of their step father.

A possibility for the marriage of Ameys parents
WILLIAM WEBB Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH BIRD Family
Marriage:
11 OCT 1791 Bourn, Cambridge, England

Possible siblings for Aimee
SARAH WEBB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 30 NOV 1806 Bourn, Cambridge, England
SUSANNAH WEBB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 03 SEP 1793 Bourn, Cambridge, England

ANN WEBB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 16 DEC 1798 Bourn, Cambridge, England

WILLIAM WEBB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 15 MAY 1796 Bourn, Cambridge, England
JOHN WEBB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 JUL 1810 Bourn, Cambridge, England

There are quite a few webbs living in Bourne on the 1841 census. This looks like Elizabeth with possibly grandson John, remember adult ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 years
Elizabeth Webb
Age: 75
Estimated birth year: abt 1766
Gender: Female
Where born: Cambridgeshire, England

Civil parish: Bourn
Hundred: Longstow
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England


Registration district: Caxton
Sub-registration district: Caxton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Webb 75
John Webb 15

A possible burial for the grandfather William from the NBI,but it may well not be
1813 William WEBB 51 Cambs Bourn, St Mary

Hello

Based on what you said about the name John not possibly being the father of William, I searched for a marriage of Amie. I found on the family search site an Amey Webb marrying a John Mean 18/12/1830. The marriage however is in Ickleton, I don't think it's close to Bourn, though Amey could have wanted to move away. Is there any way you know of finding out for certain if John was the father ? Would purchasing the birth certificate or marriage certificate for William be of any help to me?

The birth certificate will tell you the father's name, if there is no name then the child was illegitimate.

UNFORTUNATELY, registration of bmds only started in September 1837, and your two were both born before then. So there are no birth certificates for your to obtain.


You are going to have to try to find the parish records to see what it says in there.

Unfortunately,again!, the information on the IGI on family search is not always to be trusted, especially if it is a SUBMITTED record. An EXTRACTED record will have been taken (extracted) from the actual record, and thus is as trustworthy as anything else on the web!


It is not at all unusual to find that bride and/or groom invented a "father" for the marriage certificate, so that is no PROOF that they did indeed have a father.



sylvia

I can't find an Amie Mean on the the following censuses, or an Amey Die which was another possible marriage from the IGI.
There is an unmarried Amey Webb in Stableford in 1851 with a father William, but she was born in 1806 and her place of birth is given as stableford, plus of course, I found the possible burial in Bourn, so I don't think this is them

Looks like i'm going to have to put this on hold then and go and trace another line of my family.

Thanks for all your help it's really appreciated