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SylviaInCanada
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3 Dec 2010 03:22 |
Thank you for telling us
and Lew is indeed badly missed!
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JaneyCanuck
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3 Dec 2010 02:48 |
It's always appreciated when posters let us know the outcomes -- thanks for telling us!
Dare I say -- I was right? ;)
A footnote -- it's always good to see Lewella's name. Lew died last year and is missed by us on the boards.
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Katherine
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3 Dec 2010 02:40 |
I would like to thank all those members who helped me trace my Ellen Bunnage. She turned out to be the first and illegitmate child of Joseph Bunnage and Sarah Daiseley. Born London as Mary Ann Daiseley and migrated to Australia in 1875 as Mary Ann Bunnage / Burrage on some records. She died from TB in 1878 Maryborough Queensland. I have had contact with Daiseley/Bunnage descendents via Genes but sadly, none of them knew of Mary Ann's life story. Many thanks, Katherine
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JaneyCanuck
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27 Sep 2009 23:14 |
Just wondering:
"She arrived in Australia as Mary Ann Burrage and adopted the name Ellen Mary aged 21 yrs for her marriage certificate 1875."
The 1861 and 1871 households above on this page of the thread have
Mary A Bunnages 16 (1871) Mary Bennings 7 (1861) (both = Bunnage)
Is this the family then??
1871 household in Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire:
Arthur Bunnages 2 Elizabeth Bunnages 12 Esther Bunnages 8 James Bunnages 6 Mary A Bunnages 16 Sarah Bunnages 36 Walter Bunnages 4 William Bunnages 10
Search Trees for Bunnage born 1850-1870 in Cambridgeshire -- Walter 1866, e.g., is in several trees here at GR.
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JaneyCanuck
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27 Sep 2009 23:01 |
Well, blast from the past.
I should note that a PM was received at the time:
From Katherine, I would like to thank you very much for the time you have spent hepling trying to find my relative Ellen Bunnage. I have just had some addditional more confusing information. The Queensland death certificate shows Ellen Mary O'Hara died 20th May 1878 age 26 yrs Died of TB last seen by a doctor on 17th April, 1878. Parents Joseph Bunnage & Sarah Basley. Born London Middlesex. Arrived in Queensland age 21 years. Marriage certificate also has her as Ellen Bunnage. BUT the Maryborough cemetery register has her buried on the 21st May 1878 as Mary Ann O'Hara. But all have her being born around 1852. She must have come to Australian around 1873. She should be somewhere on the 1861 or 1871 census records. She was educated for the time and read and write well, which was rare amongst the Irish immigrants to Queensland at that time. Her O'Hara inlaws could not sign their 1850 Newcastle-upon-Tyne marriage certificate. They could only make their mark, of a crucifix cross. Thank you again, Katherine.
JC KB as was back then
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Katherine
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27 Sep 2009 22:29 |
Thank you to all those who took time to help me trace the Bunnage family.. The Australian official records had many mistakes with names and ages etc. The O'Hara family into which she married were illiterate with heavy Geordie accents mixed with Scots and Irish. My Ellen Bunnage was born the year before Joseph and Sarah's marriage and was a Daisley (written Baisley on all Australian records). She adopted the name Bunnage after her mother's marriage. She arrived in Australia as Mary Ann Burrage and adopted the name Ellen Mary aged 21 yrs for her marriage certificate 1875. She died 3 yrs later from TB as Ellen aged 26 yrs. The letter she wrote to England located in the Maryborough Historical Society has no donation records relating to this letter. As none of her Australian family could write I do not think that the Bunnage family in England were ever informed of Ellen's death. Many Thanks Katherine
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JaneyCanuck
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16 Jan 2008 00:02 |
There are entirely too many Bunnage men with wives named Sarah born in Potton, Bedfordshire.
This is one, in 1861, and in fact the children look an awful lot like the children in the 1871 household above:
Name: Sarah Bennings -- it says Bunnage Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Gender: Female Where born: Potton, Bedfordshire, England
Name: John Bennings Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Gamlingay County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England
Registration district: Caxton Sub-registration district: Caxton ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Household schedule number: 154
Eliz Bennings 3 John Bennings 28 Mary Bennings 7 Sarah Bennings 26 William Bennings 7Mo
I'm up to my ... okay, I won't say it ... in Bunnages. I'm going to leave them for now and let you see what you think.
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JaneyCanuck
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15 Jan 2008 23:55 |
Sarah with the kids in 1871:
Name: Sarah Bunnages Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Gamlingay County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Registration district: Caxton Sub-registration district: Caxton ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 88
Arthur Bunnages 2 Elizabeth Bunnages 12 Esther Bunnages 8 James Bunnages 6 Mary A Bunnages 16 Sarah Bunnages 36 Walter Bunnages 4 William Bunnages 10
Can I find them in 1861? Not on your bummage I can't.
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JaneyCanuck
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15 Jan 2008 23:50 |
Just at a loss for finding Sarah, though, in any census.
Oh, finally -- 1881:
Name: Sarah Bunnage Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Joseph Gender: Female Where born: Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire, England
Name: Joseph Bunnage Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire, England Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Agl Labr Street address: Elmdon Road Cottages Registration district: Linton Sub-registration district: Duxford Civil Parish: Ickleton County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Registration district: Linton Sub-registration district: Duxford ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Edward Bunnage 13 Elizabeth Bunnage 23 Ellen Bunnage 5 Fanny Bunnage 7 Frederick Bunnage 3 James Bunnage 17 John Bunnage 9 Joseph Bunnage 47 Sarah Bunnage 46 Walter Bunnage 15 William Bunnage 21
But there is a 5-yr-old Ellen!!!!
I'd say: named in memory of your Ellen, but the timing's wrong:
Name: Ellen Bunnage Year of Registration: 1876 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Linton County: Cambridgeshire, Essex Volume: 3b Page: 546
But that birth cert might at least establish whether these are the parents in question.
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JaneyCanuck
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15 Jan 2008 23:36 |
Joseph seems to have been a travelling man; I'm going to bet this was him in 1861:
Name: Joseph Buney Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Occupation: Bricklayer's labourer Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West ED, institution, or vessel: 50 Household schedule number: 100
Joseph Buney 28 Emma Chapman 33 Leonard Chapman 33
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JaneyCanuck
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15 Jan 2008 23:27 |
1871:
Name: Joseph Bunnez -- it says Bunneg Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Foreman Gender: Male Where born: Gaudingay, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Duxford Ecclesiastical parish: St John and St Peter Town: Duxford County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England
Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Linton Sub-registration district: Duxford ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 213
Emily Blackwill 12 Joseph Bunnez 38 Ellen Hall 16 Maria Hodson 21 Gertrude H Jackson 5 mo Sarah Jackson 29 Thomas Jackson 31 - head, merchant and innkeeper Emily Rayner 19 Joseph Russell 28
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JaneyCanuck
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15 Jan 2008 23:19 |
1851:
Name: Sarah Daisley Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Edward Mother's Name: Esther Gender: Female Where born: Potton, Bedfordshire, England Civil Parish: Gamlingay County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Registration district: Caxton Sub-registration district: Caxton ED, institution, or vessel: 1d Household schedule number: 21
Ann Daisley 12 <<< Aunt Ann? Edward Daisley 35 Elizabeth Daisley 10 Esther Daisley 34 Fanny Daisley 4 Mo John Daisley 4 Mary Daisley 3 Sarah Daisley 14 Susanna Daisley 6
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JaneyCanuck
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15 Jan 2008 23:14 |
This is the only death that's any match for Joseph:
Name: Joseph Bunnage Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Year of Registration: 1910 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 77 District: Linton County: Cambridgeshire, Essex Volume: 3b Page: 225
Every single Daiseley birth in the GRO is in Caxton.
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JaneyCanuck
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15 Jan 2008 23:04 |
Look what I've found:
Marriages Sep 1855 BUNNAGE Joseph Caxton 3b 673 BUNNEG Joseph Caxton 3b 673 (originally mistranscribed?) Daiseley Sarah Caxton 3b 673
DAISELEY, Basley ... pretty surely.
Caxton is in Cambridgeshire, FreeBMD says.
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JaneyCanuck
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15 Jan 2008 22:59 |
In the same place as the children in the workhouse, in 1861:
Name: Joseph Bunnage Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Stevenage, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Stevenage County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Registration district: Hitchin Sub-registration district: Baldock ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 69
Ann Bunnage 63 John Bunnage 44 George Bunnage 42 William Bunnage 36 Hannah Bunnage 31 Joseph Bunnage 28 James Bunnage 10 - grandson:
Name: James Bunnage Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Grandson Father's Name: Joseph Gender: Male Where born: Stevenage, Hertfordshire, England
All unmarried children of widowed mother, no indication of whose child the grandson is.
The same family is transcribed as Bromage in 1871.
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JaneyCanuck
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15 Jan 2008 22:55 |
If Ellen's parents weren't married when she was born:
Name: Ellen Basley Year of Registration: 1852 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Liverpool (1837-1934) County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 1
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JaneyCanuck
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15 Jan 2008 22:46 |
There are some interesting Bunnage children in the 1861 census:
Name: Elizabeth Bennage (it says Bunnage) Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Inmate Gender: Female Where born: N
Name: William Bunnage Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Inmate Gender: Male Where born: Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England
Name: Thomas Bunnage Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Inmate Gender: Male Where born: London, England
Civil Parish: Hitchin Town: Hitchin County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Registration district: Hitchin Sub-registration district: Hitchin ED, institution, or vessel: Union Workhouse Hitchin
Children in that situation were not necessarily orphans; their parent or parents could have been unable to care for them.
And they would have been prime candidates for being child migrants -- "Home Children" -- sent mainly to Canada and Australia, ostensibly for adoption but usually ending up as domestic or farm labourers.
We have a searchable (though incomplete) on-line database of child migrants in Canada. I don't believe there is a similar facility for Australia.
On a quick check of 1871, I don't see that William Bunnage, but an Elizabeth born c1850 could be that Elizabeth.
There are two Bunnages in the child migrants database for Canada:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/home-children/001015-100.01-e.php
but both are later.
Just some musings for the moment.
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Katherine
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15 Jan 2008 22:34 |
Suzi Wong, Thank you for checking the marriage records for me. It could be possible that Joseph Bunnage and Sarah Basley were not married. Although the O'Hara side were strict RC's, it dosen't mean that the Bunnage family were. My source of information re Ellen Bunnage's parents was her buriel register in Maryborough Queensland. Regards, Katherine
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Katherine
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15 Jan 2008 22:21 |
Hi Sylvia, Many thanks for checking the census. I don't have access to them. Still awaiting reply from Maryborough Historical Society regarding donation source of Ellen's letter, may give me a clue to location in England. THanks, Katherine
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Katherine
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15 Jan 2008 22:19 |
Hi Lew, Will try to get copy of govt marriage certifcate. Have tried for, but all the local Maryborough church records were lost / washed away in the disasterous Queensland floods of 1893. Brisbane was devasted by the same floods. Regards, Katherine
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