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Donna
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5 Dec 2007 15:28 |
Thanks Siobhan / others
You can see why I am getting so frustrating as I can't get past this hurdle to go back any further... aarrgh.
It has certainly made me think about the 'e' on the end of steel and other alternatives. Guess its back to the drawing board. It would be nice to try and find something out about the Simmons or they might prove to be just as hard.
Thanks all for your efforts
Donna
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5 Dec 2007 13:21 |
this is the same Charles in 1901, but I can not work out occupation although it does look like something to do with Market or Marker.
Perhaps someone else can have a look
Name: Charles E Steetes Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Nottingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Nottingham Sub-registration district: Nottingham South West ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 240 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Balys 46 Emily Beardsley 23 Betsy Bestwick 29 Joseph W Clarke 20 Keturah Croucher 28 Kate Freaks 29 George J Gerton 54 Sarah A Gerton 41 Elizabeth Hinds 36 Annie Holder 34 Alice Holloway 18 Jern Hughes 36 Florence Mills 26 Annie O'Sulvian 25 George Parriott 56 Lilian Philips 22 Edward W Savidge 25 Charles E Steetes 19 Alice Thorpe 21
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5 Dec 2007 13:05 |
There is this family in 1891, the father's occupation is a cab driver (which could easily be a carter)
Charles E Steele Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Relation: Son Father's Name: Charles H Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour Town: Nottingham County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Nottingham Sub-registration district: Nottingham South West ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Arthur Steele 4 Charles E Steele 9 Charles H Steele 34 Elizabeth Steele 39 Ellen Steele 11 Ethel Steele 6 Frances E Steele 15 William E Steele 16
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Donna
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5 Dec 2007 12:41 |
Hi Lynne
Thanks for having a try but unfortunately Charles b c1882's fathers name is supposedly Charles again. You can see why I can't get any further....
The annoying thing is we don't know where he was born and if indeed it was Birmingham or whether they moved there to work in the markets both father and son.
Thanks for your help.
D
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Donna
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4 Dec 2007 16:43 |
Hi
Sorry for not replying sooner, the ages of Charles was 21 and Rose Linda 20. Making them born around 1882 and 1883.
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Donna
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4 Dec 2007 14:06 |
does it give Rose and Charles age on marriage cert??
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KathleenBell
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4 Dec 2007 13:25 |
This is the same family in 1881 where both Charles's have other names:-
Name: Charles Alfred Steel Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Charles Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Burmington, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Burmington County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Shipston On Stour Sub-registration district: Shipston On Stour ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age
Charles Alfred Steel 3 Edith Emily Steel 5 John Charles Steel 27 Mary Steel 25 Ursula Steel 1
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3112; Folio: 15; Page: 6; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341742.
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KathleenBell
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4 Dec 2007 13:18 |
There is this Charles Steel in Warwickshire in the 1891 census who has a father called Charles. He is also about the right age to be marrying in 1903:-
Name: Charles Steel Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Son Father's Name: Charles Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Burmington, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Burmington Ecclesiastical parish: Burmington Town: Burmington County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Shipston On Stour Sub-registration district: Shipston on Stour ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Aurthur Steel 6 Charles Steel 37 Charles Steel 12 Kizzy Steel 10/12 Laura Steel 4 Mary Steel 36 Priscilla Steel 1 Richard Steel 8 Ursula Steel 10 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2485; Folio 7; Page 8; GSU roll: 6097595.
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Joan
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4 Dec 2007 13:08 |
Just realized the time period is too early but what a coincidence--same names.
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Joan
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4 Dec 2007 13:03 |
Donna,
Is this your family in 1901?
1901 England Census about Charles Steel Name: Charles Steel Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Rose R Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Southsea, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Portsmouth Ecclesiastical parish: St. Jude Town: Portsmouth County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Portsmouth Sub-registration district: Portsmouth and Mid Southsea ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 193 Household Members: Name Age Lavinia Delamotte 76 Lilian E Furner 16 Blanche Marsey 16 Charles Steel 31 Elizabeth Steel 70 John R K Steel 9 Marjorie J R Steel 6 Rose R Steel 35 Lavinia was Charles' Aunt, Lilian, Blanche were servants. Occupation was stated as living on their own means.
Joan
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Sue from Perth Oz
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4 Dec 2007 12:53 |
How old was gt grandfather when he married Rose
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Donna
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4 Dec 2007 12:05 |
Hi
I have been trying for many times to trace any sign of my great grandfather Charles Steel.
The information I have is; Charles David Steel (dob 2nd April 1911)- eldest son of Charles Steel (my great grandfather) and Rose Linda Simmons. Rank / Profession of Charles is a Market Porter. Address: 30 Court 4 Barford Street, Birmingham.
Marriage of Great grandfather to Rose Linda Simmons was 6th july 1903 @ St Aidans Church, Aston, Birmingham. Profession of GGF: Carter Address: 11 back of 11 Bolton Road, Birmingham Charles father: also Charles Steel (deceased) prof Carter Rose's father: George Simmons (deceased) prof: Painter.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to get any further back than this. Can anyone help
Thanks
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