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Census Lookup please

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juliag

juliag Report 22 Dec 2007 03:35

I have an Elizabeth Court B1834 Folkestone, Kent she was with parents William & Ann in 1841 but nothing until 1901 when I found her married to Edward H Dale B1831 Folkestone. Her sister Susanna was living with them that is how I found them. They have a daughter Susanna A B1872. Any possibility of a follow through from 1841 Census please.
Regards
Julia

juliag

juliag Report 22 Dec 2007 04:00

I have just found 1881 Census living Harbour Street, Folkestone. Also the marriage in 1859 Albert Henry Dale B1831 Folkestone.
I think just an 1871 & 1891 Census would help.
Sorry to mess you around
Julia

Ivy

Ivy Report 22 Dec 2007 05:18

1871?

Name: Edward A Dale
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Folkestone, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Folkestone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Folkestone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View Image

Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Folkestone
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward A Dale 40
Elizabeth Dale 37
Elizabeth C Dale 9
Mary Dale 8 months
William C Dale 5

Class: RG10; Piece: 1014; Folio: 102; Page: 1; GSU roll: 827263.

Ivy

Ivy Report 22 Dec 2007 05:20

1891?

Name: Edward H Dale
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Folkestone, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Folkestone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Folkestone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Folkestone
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice Dale 16
Edward H Dale 60
Elizabeth Dale 57
Lizzie Dale 9
Sassanna A Dale 19

Class: RG12; Piece: 748; Folio 125; Page 27; GSU roll: 6095858.

juliag

juliag Report 22 Dec 2007 06:21

Thank you Ivy, just what I wanted but I was wondering if you could possibly look up 1841 Census for me for Edward Dale, I have just come up with something and that would sort it out, it is to do with his mother. maybe Margaret.

Julia

Ivy

Ivy Report 22 Dec 2007 07:42

Name: Edward Dale
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Folkestone
Hundred: Folkestone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Folkestone
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice Dale 2
Edward Dale 36
Edward Dale 11
Henry Dale 6
John Dale 9
Joseph Dale 4
Margaret Dale 36
Mary Dale 13
Richard Dale 7

Class: HO107; Piece 477; Book: 27; Civil Parish: Folkestone; County: Kent; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 26; Page: 4; Line: 11; GSU roll: 306872.

Ivy

Ivy Report 22 Dec 2007 07:45

Name: Edward Dale
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Folkestone
Hundred: Folkestone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

View Image

Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Folkestone
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice Dale 2
Edward Dale 36
Edward Dale 11
Henry Dale 6
John Dale 9
Joseph Dale 4
Margaret Dale 36
Mary Dale 13
Richard Dale 7

Class: HO107; Piece 477; Book: 27; Civil Parish: Folkestone; County: Kent; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 26; Page: 4; Line: 11; GSU roll: 306872.

Radnor St, Folkestone; all born Kent; Edward a baker

juliag

juliag Report 23 Dec 2007 02:42

Thankyou Ivy, sorry this has taken a while but I have been out and busy cooking, you know what it is like at christmas time.
You have made my day, what I was interested in was whether Margaret Dale was Edwards mother and it has turned out so.
There is one other thing though I notice a Susanna was not on the Census and might be on 1851/1861, any help on that please.
I really appreciate your help.
Julia

Ivy

Ivy Report 23 Dec 2007 07:06

Hi Julia

I'll have a look.

In passing, there is this much older Susannah, in Maidstone area rather than Folkestone.

Name: Susannah Court
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Female
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Maidstone
Hundred: Maidstone Borough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Maidstone
Sub-registration district: East Maidstone

Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Court 25
Mary Court 20
Susannah Court 60

Ivy

Ivy Report 23 Dec 2007 07:19

1851 offers 4 people names Susannah Court (using sus*h [edited - bad choice, should have used sus*n*] court kent ):

as above, b 1781;
b 1821 born and living in Folkestone, mother Margaret Court, husband Thomas Harts
(married Thomas Hart 1844 per Free BMD);
b 1844 in Blean, to William and Hannah living in St Stephen Canterbury;

and this one:

Name: Susannah Court
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Folkestone, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Folkestone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Folkestone
ED, institution, or vessel: 2g
Dover Street

Household schedule number: 100
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Court 21 unm Victualler's Clerk
Stephen Court 23 unm Sailmaker
Susannah Court 14 Scholar
William Court 56 Head, widower, Victualler and Coal Merchant
Susannah Jeffery 14 House Servant

All b Folkestone

Class: HO107; Piece: 1633; Folio: 183; Page: 24; GSU roll: 193536

Ivy

Ivy Report 23 Dec 2007 07:25

The 1861 on the same criteria has
-the same three first listed above for 1851 (i.e. b 1781, 1821 and 1844)
-two children b 1857 (see wife below) and 1860 in Folkestone to Stephen and Mary Ann
-two wives (poss m since 1851 census), being:
b 1812 Woolton, m to William, mother of Susannah b 1857, living in Sibertswold; and
b 1835 Boughton m to John, living in Goodnestone.

Will look further

Ivy

Ivy Report 23 Dec 2007 07:39

For my ref:

In 1891, Susannah A Court, aged 55 (b approx 1836 in Folkestone), widow, is living on own means in Folkestone (in a separate three room apartment at Mary Fisher's lodging house at 62 Cheriton Road), and these details (other than the living accommodation) match the 64 yr old visitor in 1901 to Edward Dale's household.

Ivy

Ivy Report 23 Dec 2007 07:45

Returning to the 1851-1861 period, Free BMD offers three groups of marriages where a Court married in the same district and quarter as a Susannah:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1857 (98%)
COURT Stephen Elham 2a 807
COURT Susanna Alice Elham 2a 807
Earl Ann Romney Marsh 2a 807 (in italics on Free BMD, indicating poss error)
Marriott Lucy Elham 2a 807
SEAL James Elham 2a 807;

Marriages Dec 1856
Court John Faversham 2a 1055
Eve Susanna Faversham 2a 1055
Noble Elizabeth Ann Faversham 2a 1055; and

Marriages Jun 1852
Bristow Susanna Thanet 2a 831
Court Stephen Thanet 2a 831
Dale Mary Ann Thanet 2a 831
STANLEY Thomas Moore Thanet 2a 831.

Ivy

Ivy Report 23 Dec 2007 07:55

This is the Stephen/Susannah household in 1861, both b Folkestone:

Name: Stephen Court
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susanna
Gender: Male
Where born: Folkestone, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Folkestone
Town: Folkestone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Folkestone
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Milldene, 8 Raglan Vil

Household schedule number: 69
Household Members:
Name Age
Lydia Austen 19 household servant
Stephen Court 34 head mar master Royal Navy half pay
Susanna Court 24 wife mar

(I see that Ozibird, that wise bird, had found this for you on one of your other threads)

Ivy

Ivy Report 23 Dec 2007 08:06

For completeness, here is the Stephen and Mary Ann household in 1861:

Name: Stephen Court
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Folkestone, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Folkestone St Mary and St Eanswythe
Town: Folkestone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Folkestone
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
High Street, Folkestone

Household schedule number: 73
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwd Court 5
Mary Ann Court 32
Stephen Court 33 Sailmaker and greengrocer
Stephen Court 6
Susannah Court 7 Mo
Margaret Dale 17

Ivy

Ivy Report 23 Dec 2007 08:20

OK, now that I have realised (See edited posting above) that I should also be looking for Sus*n*, this then does pick up all the expected people:

the three unmarried sisters from Acrise (Susannah, Elizabeth and Agnes all born around 1830 ish)

the wife of William b abt 1814 in Wootton living in Sibertswold

and more entries for the Susannah A Court you are looking for:

1841

Name: Susanna Court
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Female
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Folkestone
Hundred: Folkestone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

View Image

Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Folkestone
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Comb 45 (Court on image), publican
Ann Court 40
Elizabeth Court 7
Henry Court 2
Richard Court 11
Stephen Court 14 Ap
Susanna Court 5
William Court 20 Coach painter

(and in 1871 as a widow at 12 Cheriton Villas Christchurch Folkestone with her four unmarried nieces, but I think you had that on one of the other threads?)

Ivy

Ivy Report 23 Dec 2007 08:21

(duplicated post now deleted)

Ivy

Ivy Report 23 Dec 2007 08:34

Separating the two Stephens:

The IGI has:

STEPHEN BRANDFORD COURT Male

Event(s):
Christening:
13 MAY 1827 Folkestone, Kent, England

Parents:
Father: WM COURT Family
Mother: AN

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record (P020721); and

STEPHEN COURT
Male

Event(s):
Christening:
24 DEC 1826 Folkestone, Kent, England

Parents:
Father: JAS COURT Family
Mother: SAR

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record (same batch)

Ivy

Ivy Report 23 Dec 2007 08:59

Possible entry for her husband's death (the only Elham reg dist death of a Stephen Court between 1861 and 1871):

Deaths Jun 1861 (>99%)
Court Stephen Elham 2a 452