One of these ladies married Wm Lambert in Hampstead 1909 is there anyone out there who has any information about them? William is a Great Uncle I know nothing about, he was born in Sunderland in 1879 his father was a Doctor. He was never mentioned in the family and I'd love to know more about him and to find his descendants who would be cousins of mine.
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his marriage cert holds the answer. send for it?
Minshall is a nice distinctive name - might be worth a look on free bmd - see any Lambert births with right MMN
update Clarke births MMN Minshall = 0 Lambert MMN Minshall = 0
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I remember these people!
http://genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=957604
Name: William Osborne Lambert Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Boarder Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England Civil Parish: Battersea Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: West Battersea ED, institution, or vessel: Emanuel School
Of course the only way to know which woman William married is to order the marriage certificate:
Name: William Osborne Lambert Year of Registration: 1909 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Hampstead County: Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 1a Page: 1610
However, you can also check (at Ancestry or FreeBMD) for Lambert births (after mid-1911) with mother's surname Stanley or Minshall.
... which I'll bet you've done, and found none of either, as I just did. ;)
There were a half-dozen Lambert births between 1900 and 1911 in Hampstead, though, including one that might have been a daughter of the Lambert-Minshall couple, if such there was:
Name: Evelyn C Lambert Year of Registration: 1910 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Hampstead County: Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 1a Page: 544
If you get the marriage certificate and it has an address on it where you think the couple might have then lived, you could apply for the record for that address in the 1911 census, to see whether they were there / had any children:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/1911census
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The only Evelyn Minshall in the birth index seems a little old:
Evelyn Minshall 1870 Jul-Aug-Sep Greenwich
Although hmm, this one shows up in 1901, and is very likely the one in that marriage list:
Name: Evelyn M Minshall Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas E - Secretary, Natn Educ Assn Mother's Name: Sarah S Where born: Totteridge, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Hampstead Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen County/Island: London
But here's a likely-looking Alice Maud Stanley:
Name: Alice Maud Stanley Year of Registration: 1880 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Sunderland County: Durham, Tyne and Wear Volume: 10a Page: 627
In 1901:
Name: Alice Stanley Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John A - School Board Officer Mother's Name: Matilda Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England Civil Parish: Sunderland Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: Durham
Maybe the Stanley and Minshall fathers were acquainted. ;)
They look about neck and neck in the running for wife of William, although Minshall was likely a little more upper crust.
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Thanks Kathryn, I think Alice is more likely as the family were born in and lived in Sunderland . What is freeBMD? and where do I find it? Ignorance is NOT bliss!
Liz
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My goodness! I usually get pedagogic with obvious rank newbies, but you flew under the radar. ;)
http://www.freebmd.org.uk
FreeBMD is the outfit that's busy transcribing the General Registry Office index of births, marriages and deaths from 1837 forward.
One handy trick I didn't realize was possible for the longest time is that you can search for marriages by both parties' surnames (which can't be done at Ancestry until 1911 when the surnames started being tied in the GRO index). You won't find definite confirmation of a marriage between two particular parties, but you'll find where the two surnames appear on the same page, usually as two of four. Sometimes if you search for, say, Smith and Brown, you'll get a page with a Jane Smith and a Mary Brown. And if you do get a John Smith and a Mary Brown, you can't be sure they married each other without getting the certificate.
Actually, you can also search by given names -- if you want to find out who Mary, the wife of your John Smith in 1881 was, you can search for marriages of a John Smith, 1875 to 1881, in Essex (for example), to a Mary. Works better if the names are a little more unusual. ;)
As to your particular couple -- Alice was from Sunderland, but keep in mind that William married in Hampstead, and that is where that Evelyn was in 1901. He could have been working there for a while or some such. Let us know when you have the certificate! If the wife turns out to have been Evelyn, I'll bet that the 1910 birth is their daughter.
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