I have an Elizabeth Mary Henley bapt 8 July 1805 Walcot, Bath, Somerset. Her parents were Henry and Elizabeth Henley.
She married 11 Feb 1832 at Walcot, Bath to Robert Underwood NASH. Robert was born ca 1805 also Walcot, Bath, Somerset.
Now I know they had 2 children, who are Robert Henry Nash and Elizabeth Mary Nash - TWINS b ca 1836.
I have a possible 1841 Census for them HO107/970/3 Folio 48 Page 9 at Batchelers Lane, Walcot, Bath, Somerset. Robert was 35 Ag Lab Elizabeth 35 Edwin 8 (I do not know about him!) Alfred 7 (I do not know about him!) Henry 3 (This could be my Robert Henry Nash b ca 1836, a twin, but there is no Elizabeth Mary Nash. Possibly she died at birth)
I have been trying to follow this family through the Census - so 1851 so possible census HO107/1562 Fol 250 Page 44 48 Elim Street, Bermondsey. Just initials!! but they match the above. However, I did not think Robert was born in Devizes Wilts, and Elizabeth born in Bridgwater Somerset!!
There is a death on freebmd for Robert Nash 2852 June Q Bath 11 36, but looking on BATH BMD, this entry is not correct
Another 1851 Census which is a possibility is HO107/1938 Fol 2 Page 179 7 Stone, Silver Street, Elizabeth Nash Head Mar 45 Ag Lab wife b SOM Chew Magna (again not Bath)
At this stage, I am getting very confused and cannot seem to follow the family through, can ANYONE help please?
Many thanks Jo
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1871 England Census about Robert Henry Nash Name: Robert Henry Nash Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Maria Gender: Male Where born: Bath, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Clifton Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Clifton Sub-registration district: Clifton ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 175 Household Members: Name Age Maria Nash 30 Robert Henry Nash 37 Robert Henry Nash 8
This Robert was a butler in both 1871 and 1881 census, Possible son of your Robert? Also places of birth can vary alot census to census.Mistakes were made and often if the parents had been completing census when the kids came to do it themselves they often wrote place of birth as where they remember living last-which if they moved alot can be wrong!
Michelle
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Michelle
Yes that is possibly Robert's son. I have him on the 1881 census at Clifton College.
Ought to find and get the marriage certificate to check whether I have the right father.
Thank you for your help Regards Jo
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1871 England Census about Elizabeth Nash Name: Elizabeth Nash Age: 66 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Chew Magna, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Chew Magna Town: Stone County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Clutton Sub-registration district: Chew Magna ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 119 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Nash 66 1871 England Census about Elizabeth Nash Name: Elizabeth Nash Age: 62 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Gender: Female Where born: Bridgewater, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalen County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: St Mary Magdalen ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Nash 62 Henry Nash 32 Robert Nash 66 Sarah Nash 26
1861 England Census about Elizabeth Nash Name: Elizabeth Nash Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Gender: Female Where born: Bridgewater, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalen County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Bermondsey Sub-registration district: St Mary Magdalen ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Geo Hamma 60 Elizabeth Nash 53 Henry Nash 23 Robert Nash 56 Sarah Ann Nash 18
See why you getting confused! I would say to follow the census records that have Robert and mention the children-bridgewater,Somerset and Bath ones look most promising.Think the Chew Magna is a different person.
Michelle
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This looks like the birth of Henry Nash, no Elizabeth at the same time, and probably to late for your Robert Henry.
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1838 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COLSTON Edwin Bath 11 44 Gibbons Henry Head Bath 11 44 Grant George Bath 11 44 Hansford Emily Caroline Bath 11 44 LAW Michael Bath 11 44 >>>>NASH Henry Bath 11 44 SOUTHEY Henry Bath 11 44 TANNER George Bath 11 44 WALTERS Sarah Ann Bath 11 44 WEST Charles Bath 11 44
Andy
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Andrew
Yes, Henry Nash in 1838 looks promising, but if you look in bathbmd, you will find the mother's maiden name is LLOYD, so that one is out!! Sorry.
My children i.e. Robert Henry Nash and Elizabeth Mary Nash were born before registration.
Many thanks for your help Regards Jo
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Michelle
Now you have found my problem!!
I also don't think the 1871 census for Elizabeth Nash born in Chew Magna is correct.
For the 1871 census in Bermondsey, I cannot see why she is down as born Bridgwater and Robert Nash, husband born Devizes, Wilts. Children look to be correct Same problem in the 1861 census. Thats what has got me confused and I cannot find any alternatives!!
Many thanks for your help Best wishes Jo
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I have had a few like this on my tree a real headache!Like i say best to follow husband and children.Place of birth can vary like i said before.Do think Chew Manga wrong one.
Happy New Year and happy searching!
Michelle
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Michelle
Thank you very much indeed for your help. A real headache - like you say. I have umpteen Censuses printed out and have stuck notes on all of them 'not likely', 'unlikely', 'born in wrong place', 'ages wrong', etc etc.
Going to see if I can find the marriage of Robert Henry Nash to Maria on 1871 - again she is not on census with her husband in 1881!!!
Many thanks indeed for your help Regards Jo
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