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hello everybody ..just writing to tell that dont think I can get any further with my HALLETT tree John Hallett is still elusive although I do think the iron turner is the one (i think there might be 2 of them) so I am sitting down this evening ang goin through all my paper work again (and there is a lot of it) before I do a final print out THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO EVERY ONE ON THIS BOARD FOR ALL HELP RECIEVED....Dottyx..PS Im a glutton for punishment does any know do I av to get rid of my Hallett tree befor I start another one

Hi Dot.
Some things never change. It all sounds plausible is Mary Ann did live in Saddleworth.
Perhaps she met him before he was married then resumed the relationship after

Here they are in 1871.
John Hallet 1835 Oldham.occ iron turner
Betty wife 1836 Oldham occ cotton weaver
John son 1857 Oldham Iron fitter
Joshua son 1862 Oldham

Change of birth place but its them.
Cant seem to find him in 1861,1851

mary anne was a widow who had 2 children with john hallett but I av not found any evidence of marraige yet ...mary ann hallett nee lockwood nee jones did live in saddlleworth for a while? thanks for info..it looks like she was avin an affair..dotty

Dotty have you found a marriage for John Hallett and Mary Ann Lockwood? There is a married John Hallett

1881 .census.
John Hallett 1834 Saddleworth Yorkshire occ iron turner.
Elzabeth wife 1832 Saddleworth.occ frame tenter
Joshua Hallett son 1862 Oldham.occ machine fitter

address 228 Lees Rd Oldham



1891 census.
John Hallett 1834 Saddleworth.occ iron turner
Elizabeth wife 1832 Saddleworth.

address 7 Derker St Oldham

Valerie I av studied all info on john hallet and I am still not sure which one it is..I av the birth cert for Elijah naming John Hallett as his father and living at 2 clarkwell st oldham so av u any idea if I could look up in census could I find out about other people at that address ... this would come in handy because there are other members of the family still alive but i av not got a surname..I knew where they lived in the sixties if I could trace them to help with tree ...they might akready be using this site ...dotty

Valerie I av printed out the info you sent about john hallett so I can study them closer,,,thank for christening details for Elijah he was born May 9th 1882... His birth certificate states that John Hallett was an IRON TURNER that seems to tie in because Elijah worked in iron before and after WW1 and so did Elijahs son Harry and his son my husband Dave Hallett ...oops I`d better get of here OR ELSE I WONT BE THE ONLY ONE WITH THE SCREAMING AB DABS?... my heads always spinning when Ive done research on this site ..but I luv it...dottyx

amanda ..that certainly looks like the mary anne jones aged10 (1851 census) ..many thanks to you ..dottyx

this one
John Hallatt 1829
in 1861 census

1861 England Census
about John Hallatt
Name: John Hallatt
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Stalybridge, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Stayley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Stalybridge
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Stalyey
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 82
Household Members: Name Age
Ihor Hallatt 7** image say Thos
John Hallatt 32 ** Cotton Spinner
Mary Hallatt 33
Sarah E Hallatt 4
Sophia Hallatt 6 Mo


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Hi Dotty
this one 1841

1841 England Census
about John Hallatt
Name: John Hallatt
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Ashton Under Lyne
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Ashton and Oldham
Sub-registration district: Hartshead
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Hallatt 1 Mo
Harriot Hallatt 6
Henry Hallatt 8
Jamis Hallatt 1
John Hallatt 12 ** Cotton Pieces
Sarah Hallatt 30 * Wife of Thomas
Thomas Hallatt 30** Cotton Spinner
Thomas Hallatt 3


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hi dotty

this is John hallett 1829 with his father
in 1851 census.
They all work in the Cotton Mill.

1851 England Census
about John Hallett
Name: John Hallett
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Gender: Male
Where born: Stayley, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Stayley
Ecclesiastical parish: Stayley
Town: Stalybridge
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Mottram
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 62
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Hallett 20
Ellen Hallett 3
Harriet Hallett 16
Henry Hallett 18
James Hallett 11
John Hallett 22 ** cotton pieces
Thomas Hallett 43** Widow " Cotton Spinner
Thomas Hallett 13
William Hallett 8


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Hi Dotty,

could this be John Hallett 1829 & Family in 1871Census
this is john hallett from above could it be his father ?

1871 England Census
about John Hallett
Name: John Hallett
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Stalybridge, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton Under Lyne
Ecclesiastical parish: Old St George
Town: Stalybridge
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Hartshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 169
Household Members: Name Age
John Hallett 42 ** Cotton Shinner?
Mary Hallett 44 **Housekeeper
Sarah E Hallett 14
Sophia Hallett 10
Thomas Hallett 17
William Hallett 6
Edward Smith 49


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I cant find John Jnr anywhere

This Mary A in 1881

Mary Ann LOCKWOOD Head W Female 40 Staleybridge, Cheshire, England Housekeeper
Mary Jane LOCKWOOD Daugr U Female 20 Staleybridge, Cheshire, England Cotton Operative
Sally LOCKWOOD Daugr U Female 19 Staleybridge, Cheshire, England Cotton Operative
Joseph W. LOCKWOOD Son U Male 17 Staleybridge, Cheshire, England Peicer Cotton
Bertha LOCKWOOD Daugr U Female 13 Oldham, Lancashire, England Scholar
Elizabeth LOCKWOOD Daugr U Female 7 Oldham, Lancashire, England Scholar
Eda LOCKWOOD Daugr U Female 4 Oldham, Lancashire, England Scholar
James E. LOCKWOOD Son U Male 8 m Oldham, Lancashire, England Infant


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Source Information:
Dwelling 8 Bancroft St
Census Place Oldham, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341972
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4067 / 60
Page Number 38

Hi Dotty, Ive found this on IGI familysearch.

Elijah Hallet
Christening - 21st Feb 1883. Oldham,Lancashire.England
Parent's John Hallet & Mary Ann Hallet

Have a Happy New Year to you and your family
Valxx

valerie ..I think that JOHN HALLETT in your last reply could the father of my john hallett...thank you very much for putting the time in on this very elusive man and I shall study all your replies again tomorrow have A HAPPY NEW YEAR ...Dottyx

amanda when I got elijahs medal details the name lockwood was on there and crossed out.. a relative claimed there was a Lockwood from way back and this is what I av been working on but not tonite my family have been here since before christmas so time for a bit of R&R. av HAPPY NEW YEAR ...Dotty

could this be him as a boarder

1891 England Census
about John Hallett
Name: John Hallett
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Staleybridge, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: Oldham Church
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Hallett 62*** Wid Occ Willower cotton mill
Mary A Ross 42** Wid Occ ? Cotton mill


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"if this is Elijah & James father why isn't he living with Mary and the children"

Hi again
John Hallett looks quite tricky, as I have found 2 living in Oldham in 1891 and 1 in 1881

1881 & 91
Is John Hallett b. circa 1834 Stalybridge
married to Elizabeth b.circa 1832
they had a son Joshua living with them in 1881

1891 John Hallet b.c 1829 Saddleworth Yorks
is living with a Mary A Ross as a boarder, Mary was 42 at this time, both were widowed.

Does family folklore give any indication re John, as if it is one of these men, they would be older fathers.
It is also cnfusing with this new possible Mary Ann, but you say there is evidence of the Lockwood name historically.

Hi
Happy New Year.
Could this be Mary Ann Jones in 1851.
As Mary Ann Lockwood birth place indicated as Stalybridge Lancs/Cheshire, this is how I based search.
I have not yet discovered how to Paste so bear with the slight change to normal view of census.

MARY ANN JONES
age: 10
relation: daughter
Fathers name: JOSEPH
Mothers name: MARY
Where born: Cheshire England
Civil parish: Dukinfield
Ecc parish: Castle Hill
Town: Stalybridge
County: Leics
Reg district: Ashton under Lyne
Sub reg: Dukinfield
Ed: 1a
Household Sch: 66

EDWARD JONES age 18
JAMES 16
JANE 27
JOSEPH 56
MARY 53
MARY ANN 10
SARAH 4

Valerie ...yes thats the lockwood family ...the 2 youngest James and Elijah(my husbands grandad) were John Halletts sons so your on the right track hope you can trace marys and johns parents now please please please...dotty