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ErikaH
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1 Jan 2008 01:00 |
Right.............1901..............for info
Name: Frederick W Cater Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Catherine Gender: Male Where born: Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Kensington Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew and St Phillip County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Kensington Town ED, institution, or vessel: 64 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 284 Household Members: Name Age Catherine Cater 30 Frederick W Cater 37 Margaret Cater 14 days Reg
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Jane
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31 Dec 2007 16:59 |
Hi Reg Census Record RG13 Piece 30 Folio 115 Page 37 Address 3 Hazlewood Ct Civil Parish Kensington
Wife Catherine Carter age 30 married born London Kensington
Frederick W Carter Head Married age 37 Occupatio Carman Born Bucks Daughter Margaret Carter age 0 Born London Kensington The info you posted 1881 & 1891 census is correct but cannot find where FWC was in 1891, on marriage cert. states his fathers name was william but in 1881 census the name is Robert Jane
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ErikaH
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31 Dec 2007 16:25 |
Never......never.....ever....presume.......it's fatal!!!!
Which 1901 census record do you refer to?
Please post the full details.........and please answer all previous questions. Thanks
Reg
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31 Dec 2007 16:12 |
Hi this is getting confusing, in 1901 census is states that FWC was born in Stone so I know that this is my Grandfather because the area that they were living in at the time 1901 was where my Mum was born. I remeber my mum saying that her dad had been married before. I presumed that Evaline was WFC daughter because her middle name is Cowley. When you start looking at records you realise that there are many people with the same name Jane
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Penny
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31 Dec 2007 15:36 |
I wonder how they have got tied together - its curious.
Be interesting to hear from jane
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ErikaH
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31 Dec 2007 15:06 |
Until Jane tells us how old Fred was in 1900, I'm not looking any further..............
Other than to say, that as Eveline's birth was registered in JFM 1888, and the marriage wasn't until OND1887, it's entirely possible that Fred wasn't her father, which would explain the inclusion of MMN in her name
BUT.........this is not the Fred who married Catherine
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31 Dec 2007 14:59 |
cant find Frederick carter born Stone in 1901
update, says he's born aylesbury
Name: Fredk W Carter Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Charlotte Gender: Male Where born: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Aylesbury Ecclesiastical parish: Aylesbury St Mary and St John Town: Aylesbury County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
Registration district: Aylesbury Sub-registration district: Aylesbury ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 104
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Carter 36 Edith Carter 7 Evelyn Carter 13 Frederick C Carter 11 Fredk W Carter 36 I have gone in a circle - why is she described as a neice?
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ErikaH
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31 Dec 2007 14:58 |
YEs.he is
Name: Frederick W. Carter Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Stone, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Aylesbury County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address: 4 California
Occupation: Postman Registration district: Aylesbury Sub-registration district: Aylesbury ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Ann Carter 4 Caroline E. Carter 8 Elizabeth Carter 47 Frederick W. Carter 16 Herbert Carter 21 Mary Carter 13 Robert Carter 44 Robert Carter 6 Rosetta Carter 18 As you will see, his father is Robert, so he is NOT the same person as the one who married in 1900
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31 Dec 2007 14:57 |
ok, if Granny in 1891 is correct, this must be granny in 1881 with her children at home unmarried
Name: Rosetta Carter Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Stone, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Aylesbury County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address: 4 California Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Packer At Printing Works Registration district: Aylesbury Sub-registration district: Aylesbury ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ann Carter 4 Caroline E. Carter 8 Elizabeth Carter 47 Frederick W. Carter 16 Born Stone Herbert Carter 21 Mary Carter 13 Robert Carter 44 Robert Carter 6 Rosetta Carter 18 Born Stone Stone is a hamlet nr Aylesbury
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ErikaH
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31 Dec 2007 14:56 |
In 1891, Eveline (b. Aylesbury) is with grandmother Elizabeth (b. Stone) and aunt Rosetta (b. Stone)
Is Frederick William with these people in 1881?
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31 Dec 2007 14:50 |
Im confused by Eveline in 1891 , where she is described as a neice, with an Uncle Carter.
If she was indeed his neice, he must be her fathers brother ....yet has the same first name .
How can that be?
( AND if she is with her Gran Elizabeth carter, His mother cant be sarah)
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ErikaH
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31 Dec 2007 14:25 |
I've just checked 1891...the family I posted for 1901 were on 1891.....so that rules them out as being the ones who married in 1900...........
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31 Dec 2007 14:22 |
What evidence is there that the Frederick William Carter who married Catherine is the same person as the one who married Mary?
How old was he on the marriage cert? And what was his occupation?
What about Catherine's details? Age, father's name etc?
Reg
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31 Dec 2007 14:06 |
clutching at straws a bit. 1881?
Name: Arthur Carter Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Grandson Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Kensington Civil Parish: Kensington County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 2 Sloane Place
Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Brompton ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Arthur Carter 4 Frederick Carter 15 born Kensington Mary A. Carter 68 Sarah Carter 35 Sarah Matthews 70
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Penny
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31 Dec 2007 13:45 |
Have you Evelines birth cert?
According to that 1901 Williams Mother is the Sarah Carter that is mentioned, Born london
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Jane
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31 Dec 2007 12:57 |
Hi Reg yes I do have the 1900 cert. it says FWC was a bachelor his fathers name was William and he was a carpenter , I will try and trace this person Many thanks
Jane
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31 Dec 2007 11:20 |
Do you have the 1900 marriage cert?
What does it say about Fred's 'status'? And his occupation? Father's name and occupation?
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31 Dec 2007 11:16 |
The second marriage reg'n.......purely for info
Frederick William Carter 1900 Apr-May-Jun Hendon (1837-1947) Middlesex Catherine McAuliffe 1900 Apr-May-Jun Hendon (1837-1947) Middlesex
Is this the correct family in 1901?
Name: Catherine Carter Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Frederick W Gender: Female Where born: London, England Civil Parish: St John The Evangelist and St Margaret Westminster Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Knightsbridge Town: London County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: St George Hanover Square Sub-registration district: Mayfair and Knightsbridge ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 436 Household Members: Name Age Agnes Carter 11 Arthur Carter 24 Brother Catherine Carter 32 Frederick W Carter 35 Kate Carter 8 Lillian Carter 3 Major Carter 1 Rose Carter 6 Sarah Carter 55 Mother Reg
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Jane
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31 Dec 2007 11:11 |
Hi, my grandfather married MAC in 1887 thay had a daughter Evaline in 1888, I have found that ECC lived with her Grandmother Elizabeth Carter and Aunt Rosetta Carter on the 1891 Census so I would like to find out what happened to MAC My Grandfather Frederick William Carter married my Grandmother Catherine McAuliffe in London in 1900 I know this is a bit of a muddle Jane
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31 Dec 2007 10:51 |
1891 Dad & Charlotte? with fred Jnr
Name: Frederick C Carter Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Relation: Son Father's Name: Frederick W Mother's Name: Charlotte Gender: Male Where born: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Aylesbury Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Aylesbury County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England
Registration district: Aylesbury Sub-registration district: Aylesbury ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charlotte Carter 25 Frederick C Carter 1 Frederick W Carter 26 Hang on a Mo - jane says they married in 1900 - are we up a gum tree here?
Jane - what was your grandmothers name please?
I;m completely confused here - do you have Evelines birth cert?
I;m not so sure he didnt marry Charlotte in the first place
Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carter Frederick William Aylesbury 3a 987 Cowley Mary Ann Aylesbury 3a 987 NORTH Robert William Aylesbury 3a 987 RICKARD Charlotte Aylesbury 3a 987
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