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Samantha, i have pm you (sent you an email)

Libby

Yes im doing so as we go along as not to miss anything out or lose or confuse, Thank you

Samantha

I have just as much excitement finding other peoples ancestors as I do my own. But once you have got so far with someone's elses you lose where you are, not seeing it in a tree it gets abit confusing.

Have you added what we have so far to your tree?

Libby

So i was being silly.
I wish i could help others like this it would feel so rewarding.

Samantha

Those were the children of Robert and Mary.

Libby

Lol. It means on the IGI site it gives James' siblings etc on a pedigree chart.

Don't think I showed you these.
1. ROBT. HOLDERNESS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 JUN 1803 Saint Paul, Deptford, London, England

2. JAMES FREDK. HOLDERNESS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 11 OCT 1807 Saint Paul, Deptford, London, England

3. SAMUEL MICHAEL ALFRED HOLDERNESS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 21 JAN 1810 Saint Paul, Deptford, London, England

4. EDMUND HOLDERNESS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 11 AUG 1805 Saint Paul, Deptford, London, England

Libby

Oh Libby something i wanted to ask at the top of the page where you found James Frederick Holderness after his name its says Pedigree what would that of meant or am i being silly

Samantha

Wow so much gained in an afternoon

Thank you all for your help

Happy New Year

Samantha

I'm not to clued up on these army records, have a look on the National Archives web site.

I'm stilling searching through it as well.

Libby

Libby your the best, how on earth do you manage to find all of this i would'nt even know where to begin.
So does this mean with this info i can now search for his army records?

Samantha

Royal Hospital Chelsea: Soldiers Service Documents WO 97/1236/176
JAMES HOLDERNESS Born DEPTFORD, Kent Served in Royal Artillery Discharged aged 39 . JAMES HOLDERNESS Born DEPTFORD, Kent Served in Royal Artillery Discharged aged 39 Royal Artillery: High - Hov The National Archives, Kew
Date range: 1828 - 1849.

Found this on national archives sounds very much like him. As on the 1851 census James is an army pensioner.

Libby

Hi Libby
Is it possible that they did marry?
James a gunner trying to think what/which war that would have been, sorry history not one of my best im afraid
Thanks
Samantha

Sorry can't seem to find Robert's and Mary's marriage.

Libby

JAMES FREDK. HOLDERNESS Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 11 OCT 1807 Saint Paul, Deptford, London,


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Parents:
Father: ROBT. HOLDERNESS Family
Mother: MARY


This looks like this is James parents.
Will have a look for more on them.

Libby

I have found James and Sarah with their daughter Sarah in 1841 in Royal House Artillery at Woolwich Dock. James is a Gunner'

Libby

Hi Libby
You got it, my dads cousin metioned something about a Sarah Dyble but said he was not sure if that was her maiden name well hey now we know it is, just need to go back futher

Samantha

Have a feel this is James and Sarah's marriage

Marriages Dec 1838 (>99%)
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DYBLE Sarah Greenwich 5 335
Holderness James Greenwich 5 335
NIGHTINGALE David Greenwich 5 335
PAYNE Ann Amelia Greenwich 5 335

Libby

Hi Guys
This is them, do we know what Sarah's maiden name was and can we get back any futher

Thanks
Samantha

1861 England Census
about Robert E Holderness
Name: Robert E Holderness
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James F
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: West Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 116
Household Members: Name Age
James Holderness 17
James F Holderness 50
Robert E Holderness 12
Sarah Holderness 50
Sarah A Holderness 21


Libby

1851 England Census
about Robert Edward Holderness
Name: Robert Edward Holderness
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Chapel Allerton
Ecclesiastical parish: Meanwood
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Hunslet
Sub-registration district: Chapeltown
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 107
Household Members: Name Age
James Holderness 42
James Holderness 7
Robert Edward Holderness 5
Sarah Holderness 41
Sarah Ann Holderness 11


Libby