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happy new yr to you and thanks for all your help

Think the census was Q2 so that doesn't help!!!

Having no luck with the 71 - sorry!

Happy new year :-)

Janice

there is no birth entry for an ellen wallan in the time period but there is one for ellen wallen in jun 71. so it depends when the census was taken-i have no idea.

the name often changed from wallen to wallan.

what is more the birth entry is lambeth-surrey which is where williams father (also william!!!) was born.

I have just nudged the previous thread which you may find useful.

that i dont know!

on the 81 census sarah -wife is a wallan, cant find her on 71 and in 61 youve already found him with his parents. his 1st child was born 1867ish.

im doing it again!!!! just looked at the tree-william and sarah had several children, there is an ellen but i had her birth as 72 but that was approximate- i dont think i have seen a bmd entry for her. was there a william and ellen on that previous entry you mentioned.

SORRY FOR MESSING ABOUT!

When did they marry?

god im stupid-did the search on william instead of henry

now i sound offensive but didnt mean to!

i assume he was born william wallan. i cant find a birth entry for him as wallan, wallen or williams.

there isnt a connection to wales that i know of. the mum sarah was born in norfolk i think

The Welsh frequently do that!!!!

The child William - what was his surname at birth?

its possible-who in there right mind would call there child william william?

does the image say william? (surname)

i will look on freebmd to see if i can find a henry

im not aware of one but there is a gap between williams birth and the next child in 72

Did they have a Henry too? (Child not hoover!!)

What do you think of this?

1871

William William
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Celia
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: Old Street

Celia William 27
Henry William 3 months
William William 27
William William 4

Image isn't clear - could be Willan

his wife as she is later is called sarah of that is any help

There are a couple of possibles:
one with an Ellen and one with an Esther

OK back to the drawing board!!

William (what else-they are all williams or henrys in this tree!)

I believe it to be William Leonard Wallan

janice your brilliant!

that definately appears to be them.

any luck in 71 for william

What was the child called?

OK found them in 1861 - mistranscribed. Image says Wallen

William Walter
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Laura
Gender: Male
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Somers Town

Henry Walter 11
Laura Walter 43
Laura Walter 14
Nancy Walter 13
William Walter 44
William Walter 18

unsure-he did have a child in abt 1867

Is he single or married in 1871? I've found a married one.