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Linda
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6 Jan 2008 17:05 |
I am trying to find out any information about a Thomas Fishwick. I know his daughter Emma was born in 1862 in St Helens and on her marriage certificate to Omar Lowe he is down as a Boatman.
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Pam of Kent
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6 Jan 2008 17:15 |
Could this be them in 1871? Not sure about birth place
Emma Fishwick Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Tottenham, Durham, England Civil Parish: Shipley Ecclesiastical parish: Shipley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Shipley ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 146 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Fishwick 51 Emma Fishwick 8 Mary Elizabeth Fishwick 18 Thomas Fishwick 54 Thomas Fishwick 15 Henry Keighley 41
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4498; Folio: 48; Page: 26; GSU roll: 847128.
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K
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6 Jan 2008 18:00 |
I coudln't see them in the census, and the only birth I could see list her as born Wigan and if correct would give her mother's name and maiden name
Births Jun 1862 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- FISHWICK Emma Wigan 8c 57
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RutlandBelle
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6 Jan 2008 18:03 |
Linda do you have Emma's birth cert? This could be her, you could always ask for a reference check of father's name and if wrong they would only charge £3 instead of £7. If her father was a canal boatman and worked the Leeds Liverpool Canal she might even have been born on his boat. I love the canals and their history, we have a canal boat, and I have met many 'boat people' (sadly nearly all gone now) and I know that women did give birth in the tiny back cabin. There are 2 Boat Musems, Ellesmere Port and Stoke Bruerne both have good web sites, just google for them.
Emma Fishwick Year of Registration: 1862 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Wigan County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire Volume: 8c Page: 57
I'll keep looking for Thomas
Jennifer
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K
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6 Jan 2008 18:13 |
I think I have found them pre Emma's birth It's the first completely handwritten record I have ever seen - taken on board ships plying on the Leeds Liverpool Canal!!
1861
Name: Thomas Fishwick Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Master Spouse's Name: Catherine Gender: Male Where born: Lathom, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Wigan County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Wigan ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Agnes Fishwick 2 Catherine Fishwick 22 b Crosby Catherine Fishwick 4 b Liverpool Jane Fishwick 6 b Liverpool Thomas Fishwick 26 b Lathom Name of vessell - Seven Brothers
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RutlandBelle
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6 Jan 2008 18:15 |
Just for interest is this Emma and her husband in 1881 at Wigan: Omer Lowe Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Aspull, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Wigan County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Boat "Ralph" Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Boatman Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Wigan ED, institution, or vessel: 54 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Emma Lowe 18 Omer Lowe 22 Boat people often married each other and then worked the boat as a team. I looked at all the other boats in Wigan but her father wasn't there.
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Jean
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6 Jan 2008 18:15 |
Hello Linda......
This is the only THOMAS FISHWICK who fits the bill
1861 census
The Seven Brothers. Leeds and Liverpool Canal, Wigan
Thomas Fishwick/head/age 26/ Master / born Lathom . Lancashire
Catherine Fishwick / wife / age 22 / born Crosby, Lancs
Jane Fishwick / daughter / age 6 / born Liverpool Catherine Fishwick / daughter / age 5/ born Liverpool Agnes Fishwick / daughter / age 2 / born Liverpool
on the 1871 census the family is living at
11 Court 2 Bostock Street Liverpool
Thomas / head / Porter labourer / born Lathom Catherine / wife / born Crosby Agnes / daughter / age 12 / born Liverpool EMILY / daughter / age 8 / born Liverpool Thomas / son / age 2 / born Liverpool
I feel quite certain, that Emily is in fact Emma.
Emma was of course was married in 1881, young Thomas is a 12 year old in The Industrial School at Everton.......I willtry to trace the other children if you wish.......
I think these are the death entries for Mum and Dad
Thomas Fishwick / age 45 / Dec 1877 / Wigan / vol 8c page 2
Catherine Fishwick / age 55 / Dec 1894 / Wigan/ vol 8c page 76
Hope this helps
Jean
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RutlandBelle
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6 Jan 2008 18:21 |
Well done K, I just had a look and that census is fascinating and I'm pretty sure you are right. The boat was called 'Seven Brothers'
Boat people had a hard life. I knew one couple well and she talked of unloading 50 tons of coal from their boat by hand, they carried coal from the midlands to London, and both their sets of parents were boat people with horse drawn boats.
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