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natle

natle Report 11 Jan 2008 15:00

Diane, I sincerely am grateful to you and all your help.
With all i have to go on i will be here forever. In the unlikely event you need my help obviously feel free lol.
You are amazing and ever so clever

many thanks
natalie

Diane

Diane Report 11 Jan 2008 14:56

ok.. what you need to do now, is load all those people onto your tree, and check them on freebmd for birth reg's and potential marriage/deaths.

Look them up in the 1881 census to see what they were up to, too.

Then you can try to find the marriages of each of the couples, to get the mother's maiden names.

It's likely that Elizabeth Hole Pearce, had a mother's maiden name of Hole.

Enough to be getting on with?? lol

Once you've been through those, and got to a dead end again, post for another lookup.

You can also try www.familysearch.org for baptisms and marriages.

Have fun !

natle

natle Report 11 Jan 2008 14:50

just thought of something maria died when my nan was about 10. which would have been about 1925/26

natle

natle Report 11 Jan 2008 14:49

the cert says bedwas

Diane

Diane Report 11 Jan 2008 14:48

probably the same?

1881 Wales Census
about Eliza J. Davies
Name: Eliza J. Davies
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Tredegar, Monmouth, Wales

Civil Parish: Panteg
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: Lower Mill
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Pontypool
Sub-registration district: Pontypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Davies 6
Edith Davies 7
Elizabeth Davies 5
Eliza J. Davies 32
George Davies 37
Henry Davies 13
Jane A. Davies 1


Diane

Diane Report 11 Jan 2008 14:42

Don't forget this is the places they lived before they were married... is Bedwas, Bedwelty?

I'll look up a couple more older census for you..

Diane

Diane Report 11 Jan 2008 14:41

think this is Maria and family:

1891 Wales Census
about Maria Davies
Name: Maria Davies
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Eliza Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Pontymoile, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Panteg
Ecclesiastical parish: Panteg
Town: Pontymoile
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Pontypool
Sub-registration district: Pontypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ada Davies 17
Alexander Davies 5
Alice Davies 16
Eliza Jane Davies 42 - born abercame
George Davies 48 - occ something in the Ironworks -born Abercame
George Davies 9
Jane Ann Davies 11
Maria Davies 4
Polly Davies 7


natle

natle Report 11 Jan 2008 14:40

i do have an addy on my nans birth certificate for them it was: 16 gellideg street maesycymmer bedwas.
my mum said she thinks they have always lived around that area she used to visit her uncle and aunt at melyn house?

Diane

Diane Report 11 Jan 2008 14:38

Ancestry!! is the answer!

address for 1891 - is FOUR rooms at looks like Mountain Level, Panteg.

Lots of siblings for you to lookup on freebmd .. lol !

Diane

Diane Report 11 Jan 2008 14:36

sorry.. forgot you don't have Maria's birth cert... for place of birth..

will check addys

natle

natle Report 11 Jan 2008 14:35

How do you do it? Its amazing
just how many people where living in the house! lol
i think maria was also born in monmouthshire there is no middle name.
does it say an address for john pearce and large large family? hee hee

Diane

Diane Report 11 Jan 2008 14:31

1891 Wales Census
about George Pearce
Name: George Pearce
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliz Hole
Gender: Male
Where born: Chadshunt, Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Panteg
Ecclesiastical parish: Panteg
Town: Upper Race
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Pontypool
Sub-registration district: Pontypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Fearis 19 - PEARCE . brother, born Devon
Edith Mary Pearce 11 - born Devon Exeter
Eliz Hole Pearce 33 - born Devon
George Pearce 37 - born dorset
George H Pearce 4
Mailda J Pearce 7 -born Pontypool
Margaret E Pearce 3
Robert Lee Pearce 12 - born Devon - Exeter
Simon Ed Pearce 9
Susan E Pearce 6
Thomas Pearce 14 - born Pontypool
William John Pearce 11/12 - born Panteg

All others born Pontypool

Occ of father and his brother "Stationery boiler attendant"


Diane

Diane Report 11 Jan 2008 14:28

yeay!

1901 Wales Census
about John Pearce
Name: John Pearce
Age in 1901: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Panteg, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Panteg
Ecclesiastical parish: Panteg
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Pontypool
Sub-registration district: Llangibby
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 248
Household Members: Name Age
Alphonse Morgan 15
Charles Pearce 7
Elizabeth Pearce 42
George Pearce 46
George Pearce 14
John Pearce 10
Margaret Pearce 12
Matilda Pearce 17
Maude Pearce 3


Diane

Diane Report 11 Jan 2008 14:27

1901 Wales Census
about Maria Davies
Name: Maria Davies
Age in 1901: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Grace
Gender: Female
Where born: Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil Parish: Swansea
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Swansea
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Swansea
Sub-registration district: Swansea
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Household Members: Name Age
Ann S Davies 81
Bessie Davies 17
Brinley Davies 3
Ernest Davies 19
George Davies 47
Grace Davies 45
Harold Davies 1
Henry Davies 6
Lellie Davies 15
Maria Davies 13
Sidney Davies 11
Stanley Davies 8



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George's occupation is a butcher's slaughterer though... :-s

Diane

Diane Report 11 Jan 2008 14:26

Natalie, no, the loopy writing takes a while to get used to.

Does Maria have a middle name?

Not certain on any of the 1901c entries..

What county is Maria born in ?

natle

natle Report 11 Jan 2008 14:24

willaim john pearce is 21 estimated dob 1889
maria davies is 22 estimated dob 1888
i cant even make out the church. is it just me ?

Diane

Diane Report 11 Jan 2008 14:21

Ps ... I'll let you check 1881 (free)... I'll look on 1901/1891

Diane

Diane Report 11 Jan 2008 14:19

I'll have a look in the censuses...

so we're after Maria Davies, with father George, and John Pearce, father George..

what ages are on the marriage cert?

natle

natle Report 11 Jan 2008 14:04

The certificates have arrived. They are the right ones so thank you ever so much.
The certificates are so hard to read!
the marrige cert states that john william pearce residence panteg fathers name could be george pearce he was a labourer. it also says that maria davies father name looks again like george davies? furnace something? cant find anything else?
please can anyone offer me advice?

natle

natle Report 6 Jan 2008 22:32

Diane
I have ordered them, dispatch date the 11th. I will let you know. I'm soooo excited!
once again thank you. i was reluctant to post because i didn't think anyone would be interested, but how wrong was I. I feel extremely humble and eternally grateful.
Speak soon, fingers crossed