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7 Jan 2008 02:09 |
Could somebody tell me if its possible to order Birth Cert.in Fathers name only? Know this seems odd.t wits end trying to find my G,Grandfathers mothers name. His Father was Philip Pike 1836.He was Philip Pike 1861. Both from Dover,kent Thanks Den.
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***Michelle***
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7 Jan 2008 02:31 |
Hi Denise Here i think is Philip Pike 1836 showing his family
1851 England Census about Philip Pike Name: Philip Pike Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Son Father's Name: Philip Mother's Name: Frances Gender: Male Where born: Dover, Kent, England Civil Parish: Ramsgate Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Ramsgate County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Thanet Sub-registration district: Ramsgate ED, institution, or vessel: 3q Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 130 Household Members: Name Age Edward Pike 12 Emma Pike 2 Frances Pike 49 Frances Pike 5 Philip Pike 41 Philip Pike 15 Susannah Pike 8 William Pike 10
His dad
1851 England Census about Philip Pike Name: Philip Pike Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Frances Gender: Male Where born: Bingham, Devon, England Civil Parish: Ramsgate Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Ramsgate County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Thanet Sub-registration district: Ramsgate ED, institution, or vessel: 3q Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 130 Household Members: Name Age Edward Pike 12 Emma Pike 2 Frances Pike 49 Frances Pike 5 Philip Pike 41 Philip Pike 15 Susannah Pike 8 William Pike 10
and Mum
1851 England Census about Frances Pike Name: Frances Pike Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Philip Gender: Female Where born: Dover, Kent, England Civil Parish: Ramsgate Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Ramsgate County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Thanet Sub-registration district: Ramsgate ED, institution, or vessel: 3q Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 130 Household Members: Name Age Edward Pike 12 Emma Pike 2 Frances Pike 49 Frances Pike 5 Philip Pike 41 Philip Pike 15 Susannah Pike 8 William Pike 10
Poss marriage
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Philip William Pike Name: Philip William Pike Year of Registration: 1860 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Dover County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 835 (click to see others on page)
Looking still for Mum(wife)
Michelle
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***Michelle***
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7 Jan 2008 02:43 |
Poss Philip Junior
1881 England Census about Philip Wm. Pike Name: Philip Wm. Pike Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Dover, Kent, England Civil Parish: Brighton County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address: 7 Middle St (Castle Hotel) Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Billiard Marker Registration district: Brighton Sub-registration district: The Palace ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Isabella Bishop 19 Robert Bullen 26 Beatrice Colls Florence Colls 7 Henry Colls 31 Jane Colls 30 Mabel Colls 2 Kate Corrigan 26 Mary Ann Edmonds 47 Percival Blandy Fleet 21 Fanny Flick 23 Charles Gill 29 Alfred B. Heal 36 Henry Johns 37 Eliza Message 17 Isaac Geo. Newton 52 Mary Ann Payne 44 Philip Wm. Pike 20 William Smith 40 Sarah Hex Vooght 27 Michelle
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***Michelle***
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7 Jan 2008 02:51 |
Denise
Did Philip 1861 have any siblings?When you reply i will look further and any more detail you have too please.
Thanks
Michelle
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JaneyCanuck
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7 Jan 2008 02:54 |
The actual question -- you don't need to name any parent when you order a birth certificate. ;)
In fact, it is better not to, lest you rule someone out in error. (On the other hand, if you're looking for someone with a common name and are certain of your info, you might want to.)
From your info, this sounds like your Philip Jr.:
Name: Philip William Pike Year of Registration: 1861 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Dover County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 688
So just order away!
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JaneyCanuck
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7 Jan 2008 02:58 |
Hang on -- I thought it was the mother of Philip born 1861 we were looking for?
More is better, I imagine, but the birth cert will provide that!
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JaneyCanuck
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7 Jan 2008 03:00 |
In the IGI:
PHILIP PIKE Spouse: FRANCES MOZES MEADOWS Marriage: 30 SEP 1832 Saint Mary The Virgin, Dover, Kent, England Batch No.: M036561
Reliable -- extracted from parish records.
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JaneyCanuck
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7 Jan 2008 03:01 |
Next generation Phliip:
PHILIP WILLIAM PIKE Christening: 11 OCT 1835 Saint Mary The Virgin, Dover, Kent, England Father: PHILIP PIKE Mother: FRANCES Batch No.: C036563
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JaneyCanuck
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7 Jan 2008 03:04 |
Marriage of parents of Philip 1861:
Marriages Mar 1860 Langley Ann Dover 2a 835 Scan Palmer Mary Ann Dover 2a 835 Peake Robert Dover 2a 835 Scan Pike Philip William Dover 2a 835
Well ... his mother is one of them, but with the data for Philip Pike, the marriage certificate will show who.
Of course, the birth cert for Philip 1861 will give the same info.
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JaneyCanuck
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7 Jan 2008 03:07 |
1861:
Name: Ann Pike -- married, lodger, mariner's wife Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Lodger Gender: Female Where born: Dover, Kent, England Civil Parish: Dover St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary the Virgin Town: Dover County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Dover Sub-registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 7
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***Michelle***
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7 Jan 2008 03:08 |
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download
PHILIP PIKE Pedigree Male Family Event(s
Marriages: Spouse: FRANCES MOZES MEADOWS Family Marriage: 30 SEP 1832 Saint Mary The Virgin, Dover, Kent, England If this is your Philp this is the marriage of 1836 Philips parents
and poss christening for Philip
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download
PHILIP WILLIAM PIKE Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 11 OCT 1835 Saint Mary The Virgin, Dover, Kent, England Parents: Father: PHILIP PIKE Family Mother: FRANCES
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JaneyCanuck
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7 Jan 2008 03:24 |
So Michelle -- where's the tadpole in 1871??
Can't find him by given name, surname, mother's name, date/place of birth ...
Also can't find intermediate Philip, 1836, in 1861, when he oughta be on a vessel somewhere.
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***Michelle***
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7 Jan 2008 03:54 |
Hi Kathryn
I have searched everywhere!You are better than this than me so i will bow out and hope you can find something for Denise. Good luck on this one!
Michelle
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JaneyCanuck
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7 Jan 2008 04:16 |
Never mind that! I was just being pushy -- mainly because Denise had wanted to know whether she could order the cert w/o the father's name, and I just wanted to set her mind at rest. ;)
So far, we've found all the same stuff, and not found all the same stuff. Dead heat. Over to Denise, sez I! She may know perfectly well what happened after 1861. (I'm suspecting Ann was widowed and remarried, but still not finding anything.)
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Wild Cat
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7 Jan 2008 10:19 |
Many thanks to you both. Michelle in answer to query Philip (1836) was only child. He had 1 son Philip (1861) ,married Rebecca Smallwood.Also have his G.parents Philip (1810) & Frances M Meadows.I dont blame you for backing out !! Kathryn I shall follow up on Ann Langley & order Birth Cert. Once again huge thanks to both ! x
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