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You cant always go by ages on census either. People often couldnt read in the old days.They wouldnt know if their name wasnt spelt correctly. I got a marriage cert today for a second marriage for my husbands gt grandmother To try to verify her age.
On her first marriage cert her age was several years different to the census. On her second one I suspect the year of marriage was incorrect . There was a line next to 0 making it look like married 1899 instead of 1890. If you took the 1890 marriage the ages were nearer the mark and she was living with the man on 1891 census.
In every case the only consistant thing was her fathers name and occupation. Seaman merchant service plus she was living with her married dau. my husbands grandmother in 1901.
So dont take everything even bmds as fact if there is a question things dont appear correct.
Its best if possible to order from the local reg office. This office sent their bmds every 3 months to gro so mistakes occured in copying and those in gro copying them too.
The local office is more likely to be accurate
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Sarahs reply via PM....
thankyou very much. We are going to have to go and look to find out father and mother to each side to go further . many thanks sarah xxx
My reply to Sarahs PM...
Sarah
The only SURE way to find both parents is to buy the mariage cert (£7)
Info on marriage certs gives you BOTH fathers names and occupations also addresses at time of Marriage and of course correct ages of the bride and groom.
Sometimes if your lucky....you might get a hint with who the witnesses were to the marriage!
Theres no short cuts to be made with this infuriating hobby! You could find yourself with loads of info but all about the WRONG family!
Once you get back to the 1901 census it shouldnt cost any more money on buying the certs.
I would hate to find out that my great great great great grandmother Matilda wasnt mine after all the hard work i put into finding out all about her complicated life and her three husbands! The children she had and the children she lost....Those odd £7 were worth it!
I wish you luck but have fun.
Kind regards
Gerri x
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If you want to buy a BMD cert, here
is the addy where you can buy it online..
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
(tip)Never pay more than £7
(another tip) for a marriage,you only need
put one partners name when ordering.
Gerri x
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This looks like the Marriage?
Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
Atkinson Sarah A Speed Barnsley 9c 533
Speed William H Atkinson Barnsley 9c 533
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Hi Potty
So did i. lol
This is her reply.....
hi, williams wife was called SARAH ANN ATKINSON we think b 1895
Gerri
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Hi Gerri
have PMd Sarah re removing her email address and also asking her to look at this thread - hopefully she will.
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Could it be Catherine?
Marriages Sep 1921 (85%)
Ryan Catherine Speed Walsall 6b 1628
Speed William Ryan Walsall 6b 1628
Gerri x
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Only William Speeds of right age, born in Staffs in the 1901 census - Really need his marriage cert to check father's name but two of the fathers are William!!:
1901 England Census
about William Speed
Name: William Speed
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Burton, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Burton Extra
Ecclesiastical parish: Burton upon Trent All Saints
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Burton upon Trent
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 62
Household Members: Name Age
Jessie Speed 3
Katie Speed 11
Lucy Speed 42
Margaret Speed 9
Thomas Speed 1
Thomas Speed 71
William Speed 43
William Speed 6
1901 England Census
about William Speed
Name: William Speed
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Cobridge, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Highley
Ecclesiastical parish: Highley St Mary
Town: Highley
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Cleobury Mortimer
Sub-registration district: Stottesden
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
David Lewton 41
Mary Lewton 38
Winifred Lewton 4
Emily Speed 12
William Speed 5
1901 England Census
about William Speed
Name: William Speed
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Pleasley
Ecclesiastical parish: Shirebrook
Town: Shirebrook
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Pleasley
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 163
Household Members: Name Age
Curtis Speed 1
Emily Speed 12
James Speed 15
Mary Speed 44
Samuel Speed 4
William Speed 44
William Speed 7
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Do you know Grandma's Christian name?
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There is this one in 1896:
Births Jun 1896 (>99%)
Speed William Henry Wolstanton 6b 104
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Hi Sarah
How sure are you about the DOB and POB? This is the ony William Speed born 1895 in Staffordshire that I can find:
Births Dec 1895 (>99%)
Speed William Wolstanton 6b 151
Do you have his marriage cert to give father's name?
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Sarah Owen & Barry Speed
Hello to all who read this posting. We are trying to find any info on my partners side of family..SPEED.. Grandad William Henry Speed b 1895 in Cannock,Staffordshire. Any info of the slightest may help us to build his tree and would be appreaciated. please contact by pm ...
thankyou Sarah & Barry
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