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Lucy Doran b. 1894 m. Henry Taggart in 1913 they had at least one son William Henry Robert Taggart in 1914. They all were born & lived in Toxteth Park.

Robert Henry Doran b. 1892 m. Elizabeth Ann Jones in 1915. They had at least one daughter Marian Elizabeth Doran in 1915. They lived in Toxteth Park.

The parents of Lucy & Robert were William James Doran and Agnes Dunn.

I seem to be stuck in my efforts to find out any more without the new census info.

Stacey Doran

What exactly are you wanting to know? are you trying to find ancestors or decendants?

Hi

This any good?

Deaths Mar 1891

Doran Marion 0 W. Derby 8b 455

Cheryl x

This thread is duplicated on the Tips Board.

oooh i do hate that, thanks Sam....

Thanks Sam


Wish people wouldn't do this!!!!!!!!

Cheryl

Sorry, whats the problem with posting on more than one board?

I am trying to find any descendants of the above mentioned people.

They had 2 brothers that were sent to Canada as home children & lost touch with the rest of the family.

I am in Canada, so i'm not sure of what i should do next

Stacey

The problem is that you have different people putting the same unpaid labour into doing the same work. A lot of people don't think of this. When you do think about it, imagine how the unpaid workers spending time doing things that someone has already done feel.

Ok, Sorry about that it was not my intention. i just wanted the most people to see the information. i havn't posted many messages on the site & didn't know that.

Stacey

I can't find the other thread, so in case no one has said this:


http://www.freebmd.org.uk


do two searches for births

surname: Taggart
mother: Doran

surname: Doran
mother: Jones


You'll get several births in Toxteth Park, which are likely all children of your two couples.

That will give you more names to be looking for, if nothing else!

You are a member of a club of hundreds, Stacey. The fault lies with the site management, which is obviously aware of all the site's problems (this is just one of them) and does nothing about them, while relying on the unpaid labour to bring in the membership fees.

You have not made any reference to your other thread therefore will end up with several people all doing the same work. This in turn will alienate people and mean those like myself are less inclined to help you.
This is nothing personal but when you help as many people as we all help we do not appreciate finding out we've spent 4 hours looking for your relatives only to find out someone else in another thread has already found them.
Please read all the threads related to Newbies and first postings.

I hope you don't take this too personally, but you really need to give us all the facts before we can start to help... that includes the fact you have multiply posted this request

Regards

Thank you for your reply Kathryn you've been very helpful and informative.

Stacey

Now now, backhanded compliments. Wayne is a good buddy of mine. Here he is, greeting a newcomer:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=992435

Laugh with us:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=991602

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=991534


Kathryn
in Ontario

btw, are you descended from one of the Home Children? I'm not, but some of my mother's cousins are -- her aunt married a Charlie Smith, and his kids always understood that was just a made-up name and he didn't know his family. I found his marriage at ancestry.ca, and it gave his parents' names, and he was indeed Charles Smith, and I've found some ancestors in the censuses ...

Have you been in touch with Barnardo's, if that was the organization they came with? And various groups working to reunite Home Children's descendants with families? If you're a direct descendant, or someone in your family is, you should be able to get access to records - although it sounds like maybe you already have, or they wouldn't tell you more than you know.

Well, were not sure that the brothers were home children, but at the age they came to Canada it only makes sense. they were aprox ages 6 & 8 yrs of age when they came to Canada. My older aunts remember their grandmother coming to visit, she started to steal stuff & their mother said she would have to leave. i have a cousin who has some information that her mother had, but we haven't been able to get together to go over it yet. My grandfather always said that they were sent here to work. i have birth certificates for my grandfather & his brother Alfred, Robert & sister Lucy and also their marriage certificates and birth certificates for the daughter & son i listed of Robert & Lucy, but until the new census comes out i'm at a standstill with finding all the descendents of Lucy & Robert who stayed in England.

Thank you Wayne for clearing that up.

Stacey

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/home-children/001015-100.01-e.php


Neither your Taggart nor your Doran is listed in the records of child immigrants to Canada / Home children -- if they're the names you gave in your first post. But later records are more incomplete, I believe.

You're probably familiar with that site, but just in case.

I'm not quite clear on who the children who came to Canada are, actually.

Did you have the names in those lists of births from FreeBMD already?

Just for ref, these seem to be the two batches of kids:

Births Dec 1915
Doran Marian E Jones Toxteth P 8b 241
Births Sep 1919
Doran Lilian Jones Toxteth P. 8b 325

Births Sep 1914
TAGGART William H R Doran Toxteth P. 8b 308
Births Mar 1916
Taggart Agnes Doran Toxteth P. 8b 250
Births Dec 1919
Taggart Lucy A Doran Toxteth P. 8b 366

with the overlapping births in West Derby not being yours, presumably.

thank you Kathryn

I had found Marian, William & Agnes
but hadn't found the ones for Lilian or Lucy yet. i believe that they were all born in Toxteth Park.

I will order the certificates soon.

You probably don't need the certificates -- although they would give you exact dates of birth, and for women, you can search the post-1984 death index by given names + birthdate alone and might be able to identify a death, if they died during that period.

I really just still don't understand who came to Canada and who didn't. Somebody might be able to help a little bit more if we were clearer on that. There seem to be two Lucys in play here as well ...

... From searching trees and seeing who you have, it would be William Taggart and Marian Doran who came to Canada?

I'm not seeing matches for them in passenger lists at

http://www.findmypast.com/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action

(although there's a Doran no first name in 1930)

Have you tried there?

That wouldn't be especially useful info I suppose, but might given you a timeframe of sorts.