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Im trying to find birth details of this fella this is from the 1841 census.... but cant find him in the 1851 etc. He was Married to a Sarah and by this time had three children mary, George and Jane! however they all appeared to be the same age! 20........

Name WILLIAM BATT
Age 40
Estimated Year of Birth 1801
Occupation BRICKLAYER
Address Birdcage Walk
District Bethnal Green
Parish Bethnal Green
Administrative County London
Born in same County NO

Hi Derek

First of all, ages were rounded up or down on the 1841 census which is why you could find several children of the same age (eg, if they were 18, 20 and 22, they would all be listed as 20).

I'll go off and have a look at the other censuses and see if I can find anything.

Mandy :)

Derek, sorry I must be having a dopey day - I can't find your man on the 1841 to start off with! Which site did you get the above info from?

Mandy :)

of here.... i copied and pasted this from here so it is! the original isnt very clear but it is on the right hand side three quarters down

i also cannot find William Batt b. 1801 living Bethnal Green on the 1841 on ancestry.co.uk


sylvia

I cannot find it using

William Batt, living Bethnal Green
William b. 1801 +/- 5 years or +/-10 years

Batt only,

Batt b. 1821 +/-10 years ( to try to pick up the children), living Bethnal Green

I have tried Bat*, Ball

and can't think of anything else!

sylvia

I'm glad it's not just me, Sylvia can't find him either! I've also looked on Findmypast at the 1841 census (both by name and by address) and can't find him. Presumably then you have bought credits for records here on GR?

Do you have any other info at all so that we could look on other sites to try and track him down?

Mandy :)

the family is completely hidden!!


sylvia

Here he is 1841

1841 England Census
about William Bate
Name: William Bate
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Hackney Road
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Bate 20
Sarah Bate 35
William Bate 40


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Original
Record

View original image

lol...i did see it i am no mad ... the information u see in my original message here is what I copied and pasted from the genes search and then clicked on the original.

I dont have any other information :O( thanks for ur help though

so they have been naughty on here.........they have mispelt his name on the data base here! grrr

Ah, Alan's found it, that's good. I wonder which site GR uses for its original sources?

I'll go back and have another go at finding any of them on later censuses.

Another tip, Derek - the credits on GR are much more expensive than other sites and don't last very long at all (but don't tell them I told you that, lol!).

Mandy :)

FOUND HIM!!!!!

1841 Census

Name: Sarah Bate
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Female

Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Hackney Road
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Bate 20
Sarah Bate 35
William Bate 40 Bricklayer

Address: Bird Cage Walk

It could be EITHER BatE or BatT on the actual image, diffiuclt to be certain


George and Jane have nothing to do with William and Sarah

They are George and Jane Edwards, and live next door. They are 20, and George is a butcher.



sylvia

how annoying ......thanks Alan :O)

I've looked at the original census image on Ancestry and it is quite faint, but it's obvious to me that George and Jane are a different family. They live at the same address as William but George has a surname (which I haven't looked at properly yet).

If you look at the enumerator's dashes to the left of the names, a single dash means new household at the same address, whilst a double dash means new household at a new address.

Mandy :)

i wondered why i have been stuck with this lot..... back to the drawing board!! thanks guys :O)

Derek,

I agree with Mandy


Don't waste your money buying credits on GR .............. they are much more expensive than other sites.



sylvia

So who is it you're actually looking for, Derek? William Batt or William Bate? If you need any lookups, we're all here to help!

I'd be inclined to let GR know that they've sent you down a blind alley, and see if they'll refund you a few credits!

Mandy :)

thanks Sylvia

I am trying to do some searching in canada to but having problems too!

Do you have birth records over there? Im trying to find the children of my great aunt and uncle, i have no idea of their names but they had 6. The lived in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. Elizabeth (nee Batt) Kelly born 1894 in London and George Kelly born 1891 they married in 1919.

thanking you :O) Del

Its William Batt i am after