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Could someone please have a look at the censuses, 1841 and 1851 in particular, for Nicholas Troughton. He was married to Jane Johnstone, the only child i know about is John Troughton, baptised at Egremont, Cumbria, on the 18-12-1822. Nicholas married Jane at Cleator, Cumbria, on the 23-8-1818. Thank you, Wayne.

Wayne, have you found him/them on ANY census?

Possibly Jane on her own? 1841

me: Jane Troughton
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1776
Gender: Female

Civil Parish: Egremont
Hundred: Allerdale above Derwent
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England


Registration district: Whitehaven
Sub registration district: Egremont

Jane Troughton 65

Hi Heather, yes i have found John, their son, on the 1851 census, although John was the head and there was no mention of his parents, i found them elsewhere, Familysearch to be precise.
p.s. i like your thread, can you see i've learnt from my mistakes???

I can only find a Jane on her own in the 1841. She seems a bit long in the tooth though>? Was the IGI stuff submitted or extracted?

What was Nicks occupation? There is a Nick aged 45 in London in the 1841.

No sorry Mel, thanks anyway but his son was born in 1822, this would make Nicholas 12, thank you anyway

To be a bit precise, his son was baptised in 1822, thats not the same as born Wayne. Ive got people baptised at the time of their apprenticeships at 15 and others when they are grown men. Not saying this is the case here but keep an open mind re birth dates.

Possibly John boy in 1841? Remember ages rounded down to nearest 5 in the 1841 (usually)

Not with parents, a male servant

: John Troughton
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Millom
Hundred: Allerdale above Derwent
County/Island: Cumberland


Registration district: Bootle
Sub registration district: Bootle

Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Pearson 40
Mary Pearson 35
Joseph Pearson 7
Hannah Pearson 5
Stephen Pearson 3
Sarah Pearson 65
Riger Postlethwaite 30
John Troughton 20
Joseph Ormandy 15
Mary Wilson 15

OR

Ag lab?

e: John Troughton
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: St Bees
Hundred: Allerdale above Derwent
County/Island: Cumberland


Registration district: Whitehaven
Sub registration district: St Bees
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Chambers Boadle 50
Mary Boadle 50
Benjamin Boadle 25
Elizabeth Boadle 20
Joseph Boadle 15
Jacob Boadle 15
Dinah Boadle 9
Sarah Boadle 7
Jessey Boadle 7
Chambers Boadle 14
Frances Dobinson 25
John Troughton 15
Mary Jackson 20
Mary Allison 20

Heather, on Johns marriage cert. his father Nicholas is a husbandsman, this was in 1846.

mmmmm i see what you mean about the baptism dates, see i'm still learning!!

The 2nd John i have ruled out before, he was born in Whitehaven, the first one sounds plausible though, he had family in Millom and later moved there

Does this lot fit in anywhere?

Name: John Troughton
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Egermont, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Whicham
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England




Registration district: Bootle
Sub registration district: Muncaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members:
Name Age
John Troughton 38
Jane Troughton 29
Martha Troughton 2
Mary Banks 12

Blow me, yes there are dozens of them in Millon isnt there!

Do you think may be Nick had a different first name or used a different first name?

I have seen them before and disregarded them because of Johns birth year, but like you say about the baptism date, it could be them, they tie in because they had a daughter, Martha, born around 1849, but they also had a son William, born in 1848, who lived until 1910

Theres this one in 1851 born Cleator - if not your bloke, good chance related - he is a jouneyman blacksmith - says married but no sign of wife so he appears to be working away from his normal home (as journey men often did) but you have probably seen him already. Keep him handy though.

Name: Nicholas Troughton
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Cleator, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Broughton West
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:


Registration district: Ulverstone
Sub registration district: Dalton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3b

Household schedule number: 61
Household Members:
Name Age
George Bellman 49
Margaret Bellman 37
George Bellman 14
John Bellman 13
Mar A Bellman 10
Edward Bellman 5
Nicholas Troughton 41

LOL ther are thousands of them in Cumbria, especially in around Millom.
Not sure about the name change, possibly

Not so much a change as someone who perhaps uses his second name rather than his first - seems to happen so much

But you have a good clutch of them in that area. Id be very tempted to contact the local FHS and do a google search in case anyone has done a one name study of them.

Thank you yes he is the same one that Mel found, must be some relation, somehow.
I will try googling him, you never know, thank you both for your help
regards
Wayne

Try googling just the surname and the area. But the local Family History society should be able to help.

I'll keep trying, thank you again

This looks good! Worth contacting someone this dedicated

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/daveforeman/Troughton/index.html