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Glenda
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21 Nov 2007 21:57 |
Any relative of Jacob West born about 1865 Woking Surrey. West name might not be original.
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Suzi-Wong
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22 Nov 2007 20:10 |
What info do you have already? Censuses? Marriage cert?
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Glenda
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27 Nov 2007 03:46 |
Have 1901 Cencus record. Jacob was my great grandfather. His wife's n ame was Mary
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SylviaInCanada
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27 Nov 2007 04:36 |
Is this him on the 1901??
If so he was born in 1845, not 1865!!!
Makes a big difference in finding him or his rellies!!!!
1901 Census
Name: Jacob West Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Woking, Surrey, England Civil Parish: South Wimbledon Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Kingston Sub-registration district: Wimbledon ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 125 Household Members: Name Age Frances Lobb 28 Albert West 21 Jacob West 56 Jacob West 19 James West 11 Mary West 54 Mary A West 26
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27 Nov 2007 04:38 |
1891 Census
Name: Jacob West Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Woking, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Merton Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Merton County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Croydon Sub-registration district: Mitcham ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Cole 73 b.ca 1818, Chippenham, Wiltshire, Father-in-law Albert West 11 Ellen West 14 Jacob West 40 Jacob West 9 James West 1 Mary West 44 Mary A West 16
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27 Nov 2007 04:39 |
1881 Census
Name: Jacob West Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Dorking, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Merton County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: No 3 Skeffington Cotts Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Wheelwright Registration district: Croydon Sub-registration district: Mitcham ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Cole 63 father-in-law Albert West 1 Ellen West 4 Jacob West 30 Mary West 34 Mary A. West 6
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27 Nov 2007 04:43 |
1871 Census
Name: Jacob West Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Woking, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Chertsey Ecclesiastical parish: Addlestone County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Chertsey Sub-registration district: Chertsey ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 125 Household Members: Name Age Edith A Ashfield 3 Rebecca Ashfield 29 William E Ashfield 1 William L Ashfield 26 Master Boot & Shoe Maker Jacob West 20 Lodger, Wheelwright
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27 Nov 2007 04:45 |
??? Jacob in 1851 with his father
Name: Jacob West Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Son Father's Name: Jacob Gender: Male Where born: Woking, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Ash Ecclesiastical parish: Ash County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Farnborough Sub-registration district: Farnborough ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Near 28 Eli West 5 Frank West 8 Jacob West 39 b.ca 1822, Woking, Widower, General Dealer Jacob West 10 Mary A West 3 Thomas F West 7 sylvia
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27 Nov 2007 04:50 |
with his parents in 1851
Name: Jacob West Age: 9 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Son Father's Name: Jacob Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Male Where born: Woking, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Woking County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Guildford Sub-registration district: Woking ED, institution, or vessel: 2c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 98 Household Members: Name Age Anne Chapman 11 Visitor Emma Chapman 13 Nursemaid (Servant) Ellen West 25 b.ca 1826, Godalming, Surrey, Laundress Jacob West 29 B.ca 1822, Woking, Ag Lab Jacob West 9 Mo
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27 Nov 2007 04:54 |
so,, 1851 baby
1861 scholar
1871 to 1901 wheelwright
wonder why he gained 6 years in age in 1901?? Maybe whoever gave the information to the census taker didn't know how old Jacob was, so made a guess!
Now why did you think it might not be the real name?
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27 Nov 2007 05:06 |
Jacob's marriage registration
Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%)
Cole Mary Islington 1b 484 West Jacob Islington 1b 484
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Father Jacob and Ellen marriage registration
Marriages Mar 1849 (>99%) Smith Ellen Guildford 4 153 West Jacob Guildford 4 153
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Father Jacob's second marriage registration
Marriages Dec 1864 (>99%) Cobbett Esther Guildford 2a 97 West Jacob Guildford 2a 97
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Jacob's birth registration
Births Sep 1850 (>99%) West Jacob Guildford 4 203
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If you order these certificates, each will cost £7, but you will get a whole lot of information from them. PLUS a certificate is the only way to be certain that you are following the correct family.
A birth certificate will tell you father's name and occupation, mother's maiden name, where they lived and where the baby was born.
A marriage certificate will tell you how old they were on marriage, the fathers' names, occupations, where they lived, and the names of the witnesses may also be helpful.
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27 Nov 2007 21:35 |
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for Glenda
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3 Dec 2007 20:02 |
Sylvia That has been a help. I am sure these are the right family. My grandfather told my grandmother before they were married that West was not the real name the "old man" had changed it. That is all I know. Many thanks Glenda
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5 Dec 2007 19:19 |
Hello Sylvia I should have asked if you were related too. I have just started this side of the family having done most of my Mother,s. I have been a bit distracted as my Mother died three weeks ago aged 94 so I thought I'd start my searches again as a way of distraction. I can tell you that Jacob's son James, age 11 in 1901 was killed in action in 1915. He left a widow with three young sons, Thomas born 1910 (missing in action 1942), James Jacob (my father) born 1912 died 1986 and Henry born I think 1914 died about 35 years ago, Henry had one son, Colin. I also know that Jacob's son Albert had one son but I never met him. As I have lived in New Zealand for over forty years I have just contact with my cousin. Regards Glenda
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SylviaInCanada
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5 Dec 2007 20:06 |
Glenda
No, no relation at all.
Just one of a number of GR members who help other members find information when they ask questions on these boards.
It isn't GR itself that finds the information for you ......... it's other members like me who are taking a break from their own researches (or have got stuck and want some relief!).
So sorry to hear about your mother.
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