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Well, I've just found what Fanny did, she's done a good job.

Interesting that Florrie is from Birmingham too.

Here is Henry in 1901,,,with a new wife,,,,,,so Sarah must have died between 1891 and 1901.


WRIGHT, Henry Head Married M 45 1856 Gun Barrell Filer
Birmingham
Warwickshire
WRIGHT, Florrie Wife Married F 32 1869
Birmingham
Warwickshire
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
147 Folio:
155 Page:
13

Registration District:
St Pancras Sub District:
Camden Town Enumeration District:
5 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Camden Town

Civil Parish:
St Pancras Municipal Borough:
Address:
54, Kings Street, St Pancras County:
London


Deaths Sep 1894
Wright Sarah 39 Pancras 1b 64

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This is also "your"Percy Wright on Ancestry WW1 records

Name: Percy Wright
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Age at Enlistment: 18
Birth Parish: Kentish Town
Birth County: Middlesex
Document Year: 1900
Regimental Number: 6077
Regiment Name: Middlesex Regiment
Number of Images: 30


Next of kin on enlistment.
Father Henry and 3 brothers and a sister.

It also gives details of his marriage and his first child.


This is him on 1901

WRIGHT, Percy 4th Battn Middlesex Regiment Single M 19 1882 Private
Kentish Town
Middlesex
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
307 Folio:
151 Page:
18

Registration District:
Whitechapel Sub District:
Goodmans Fields Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
St Botolph (Without) Aldgate Municipal Borough:
Address:
St Botolph (Without) Aldgate County:
London


So I presume he had to make himself "older"to enlist.

my aunt kept saying there was a birmingham connection,i am so glad i have u two helping me it's starting to make sence now i think lol

Fanny's birth also looks good. On the assumption that he lied about his year of birth, he probably didn't lie about his birth date, and by my reckoning he would have been born 5th March 1884.

There are no suitable registrations in the March Qtr 1884, so he must have been registered at the beginning of April.

Just spotted that Fanny's 1891 on Ancestry has Percy transcribed as Lucy, which is probably why I didn't find him. Excuses....

Fanny's Henry in 1881:

1881 England Census
about Henry Wright
Name: Henry Wright
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham

Civil parish: Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 106 Stanhope St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Gunmaker

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Regents Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 6b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Wright 24
Sarah Wright 25
Henry W. Wright 3
Frederick J. Wright

EDIT, Fanny already had this one!

I was impressed with my 1891 attempt because of all the children's names, but no, he isn't a gunmaker. Fanny's is much more likely, with Percy born about 1884!!!!

I imagine he was likely to be Percy Charles, as on the birth cert, and by the time your grandfather married he'd forgotten his dad's proper name, just knew that he and his brother had loadsa names and assumed his brother was named after dad.

No, nobody checked anything back then, people could lie about all sorts of things (or just get it plain wrong).

Except that Henry was a Gun Maker on the Marriage cert Meg?

And that is what he is on the 1881 and 1891 census I have posted.
Also Percy whatever his name may be really , says born Camden on 1911 and St Pancras on WW1 records and they are there in 1881?

The Percy born in 1884 could well be him,just that he added a few years to his age when he left home?

But even if you never sort out his correct birth at least now I believe you have his parents.

I hope so anyway.
But you now need to look into it more and do more searching for him in 1901.

This Henry is a carman and corn merchant, but all the names are "familiar":

1901 England Census
about Ellen Wright
Name: Ellen Wright
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Chelsea, London, England

Civil parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea, South
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 312
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Wright 49
Ellen Wright 37
Frederick Wright 19
Ellen Wright 15
Charles Wright 14
Edward Wright 12
Arthur Wright 10
Walter Wright 18 (is 8)
Percy Wright 19 (is 9)
Alfred Wright 8
Robert Wright 3/12

The Frederick is the right age to be the one with the Powley family in 1911, but Percy is only 9, methinks he could have lied on marriage so as to be closer to Mary Ann's age.

EDIT, not the same family as Fanny has found. This Henry is born Northampton too.

EDIT probably the wrong family.

if that is henry percy father where is percy on the list born in 1879,or is it looking more like some porky pies been going on

His ww1 records are on Ancestry,but you will not find pictures of him.

Census will be on there too of course,but I was using Find My Past for it.


I do think this is the correct family as it has correct father and occupation for him,but which child he is will take some sorting out I think.

I am tired now but will have another look tomorrow.

But the occupation for Henry is what made it easier to search.

This is the birth of the Percy on 1891 census I believe.

Births Jun 1884
Wright Percy Pancras 1b 107



Fan

omg fanny where did you get that info that is fantastic,can you show me how to veiw it is there pictures of percy,and why did my grandad say his dad name was his brothers name i heard percy left my grgran and they children ended up in a home with nuns maybe granddad did not want anything to do with his dad percy was murdered many years later by his step son.

People often changed their names about for various reasons and their birth places and also thier birth years.
Often because they couldnt remember,a lot were illiterate back then and going on the handwriting on WW1 records Percy/Frederick wasnt to good at writing etc.

1891

WRIGHT, Henry Head Married M 34 1857 Gun Barrel Maker
Birmingham
WRIGHT, Sarah Wife Married F 35 1856
St Pancras
London
WRIGHT, Henry W Son Single M 13 1878 Scholar
St Pancras
London
WRIGHT, Frederick J Son M 9 1882 Scholar
St Pancras
London
Percy>>>WRIGHT, Perry Son M 7 1884 Scholar
St Pancras
London
WRIGHT, Gertrude Daughter F 2 1889
West Hampstead
London
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
1044 Folio:
23 Page:
48

Registration District:
Hendon Sub District:
Willesden Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Andrews

Civil Parish:
Willesden Municipal Borough:
Address:
2, Garfield Buildings, Chelmsford Terrace, Willesden County:
Middlesex

thats funny because on my grandfathers marriage certificate he if called percy william frederick wright,on my grandfathers birth certificate he is called percy charles wright,on his marriage certificate he is called percy wright,some hav esaid maybe he was called william,but something does not at up why change his details did they not look into things back then

1881

Percy?

WRIGHT, Henry Head Married M 24 1857 Gunmaker
Birmingham
Warwickshire
WRIGHT, Sarah Wife Married F 25 1856
St Pancras
Middlesex
WRIGHT, Henry W Son Single M 3 1878
St Pancras
Middlesex
>>>>>WRIGHT, Frederick J Son Single M 0 1881
St Pancras
Middlesex
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
177 Folio:
87 Page:
33

Registration District:
Pancras Sub District:
Regent's Park Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
St Pancras Municipal Borough:
Address:
106, Stanhope St, St Pancras County:
Middlesex

yes he is called henry wright and deceased was a gun maker

correct marriage already have but thankyou very much

These are his WW1 records.

Aged 33yrs and 235 days on 26th Oct 1914.

He is a Carman.

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about Percy Wright
Name: Percy Wright
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Age at Enlistment: 33
Birth Parish: St Pancras
Birth County: Middlesex
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 1700
Regiment Name: Leicestershire Regt
Number of Images: 18


Gives his wife and 2 children
Percy William Frederick Wright 29/03/1909
Alfred Charles John Wright 14/03/1911

plus the same witnesses as on marriage with his marriage details to Mary Ann.

Percy Powley and Caroline Murphy.


He was in the Army in 1912 but discharged?

Just what I was thinking Flick and he has not called either of his first 2 sons Henry.

I did find a Percy Wright born in Kensington with father Henry who was a carpenter on 1881.