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♫≈♥≈♫miss chief

♫≈♥≈♫miss chief Report 27 Mar 2008 10:18

Jim & kathleen, thank you so much. will get onto it asap. this is getting very interesting but with a tinge
of sadness. but hey ho i wanted the info.
kind regards

wendy.x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Mar 2008 09:34

On the description of the enumeration district for Northumberland Village Homes it says that it is a Home for Destitute Girls.

The archives for Northumberland are at Woodhorn, Ashington.

This is the email address for archive enquiries:- [email protected]


Kath. x

Thelma

Thelma Report 26 Mar 2008 23:20

Hi Wendy and Gillian
All I know is from Google and then I only had a quick look.
You may find there is a family history society for Northumberland or you can ask on here if anyone knows where the archives are.
I would also try and trace any records for Stockton,she could easily have been in both.

Hope you find them Jim

Gillian

Gillian Report 26 Mar 2008 23:02

Hi Wendy

It's your cousin Gillian here!

I've had a look at www.hiddenlives.org.uk which has info about the children's home Jim mentions.

There is a photo of it on the website. I think this could well be where Nana was. However, I cant find her amongst the records that are available on the site - maybe I'm not using the right key word to search.

Does Jim know where we could get more information? It's great to get this clue, though!

Gillian

♫≈♥≈♫miss chief

♫≈♥≈♫miss chief Report 24 Mar 2008 17:06

Thanks for that jim, i'v checked her birth cert and she was definitely born in nantwich workhouse. I know she did at sometime end up living in north shields where she met my grandad. The plot thickens lol.

regards wendy.

Thelma

Thelma Report 24 Mar 2008 15:22

I would think the 1901 that Angela found could be classed as a childrens home.

Northumberland Village Homes for Girls Whitley Bay, Northumberland

♫≈♥≈♫miss chief

♫≈♥≈♫miss chief Report 24 Mar 2008 14:27

thanks angela, your spot on with your reply. i know from the census the family moved to south shields but minus marion. i wonder if thomas and martha were lodgers and i do know thomas was a boiler maker. i would love to find out what happend to my nana (marion). the story must be true she must have been a childrens home. many thanks.
wendy x

Angela now in Wilts (not North Devon)

Angela now in Wilts (not North Devon) Report 24 Mar 2008 13:45

Here's the 1891 family in 1901 - minus Marion:

Walter Ryding
Age: 9 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: South Shields, Durham, England

Civil Parish: South Shields
Ecclesiastical parish: st thomas;westoe
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: 26 Mill Street

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 220
Household Members: Name Age
Martha Ryding 36
Martha Ryding 3
Thomas Ryding 47
Walter Ryding 9 months
William Ryding 7

Thomas is a general labourer

Angela now in Wilts (not North Devon)

Angela now in Wilts (not North Devon) Report 24 Mar 2008 13:32

This could be her in 1891:

Marien Ridden
Age: 2/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Crewe, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Middlewich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael and Middlewich All Angels
Town: Middlewich
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Northwich
Sub-registration district: Middlewich
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Bennett 31
John Flynn 50
James McGlinchy 8
Patrick McGlinchy 2
Terance McGlinchy 36
Thomas McGlinchy 6
Marien Ridden 2/12
Martha Riden 25
Thomas Riden 35 Occupation - Boiler Maker

Angela

Angela now in Wilts (not North Devon)

Angela now in Wilts (not North Devon) Report 24 Mar 2008 13:26

As she married in Tynemouth, could this be her in 1901?

Marion Riding
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Attending School
Gender: Female
Where born: North Shields, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Whitley
Ecclesiastical parish: Cullercoats St Paul
Town: Whitley
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Whitley
ED, institution, or vessel: Northumberland Village Homes

Angela

♫≈♥≈♫miss chief

♫≈♥≈♫miss chief Report 24 Mar 2008 12:47

p.s thanks. got her birth cert and marriage cert. xx

♫≈♥≈♫miss chief

♫≈♥≈♫miss chief Report 24 Mar 2008 12:35

sorry kathleen, she was married in tynemouth reg tyne & wear. Her fathers name thomas ryding mothers name martha ford.x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Mar 2008 12:19

I can't see a marriage in 1914 either.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Mar 2008 12:16

Sorry Jim - I must be wrong, I didn't see that one.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Mar 2008 12:15

Do you hae her birth certificate to say she was born in Cheshire?

This is the only birth for that name on Ancestry:-

Name: Marion Ryding
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Ecclesall Bierlow
County: Derbyshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 373

and this is the same person in the 1901 census:-

Name: Marion Ryding
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John C
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 59
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 146
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Ryding 35
Evelyn Ryding 12
Frank Ryding 8
Jessie Ryding 1
John C Ryding 40
Marion Ryding 10

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4356; Folio: 32; Page: 20.

Kath. x

Thelma

Thelma Report 24 Mar 2008 12:14

birth
Marion Riding 1891 Jan-Feb-Mar Nantwich Cheshire

♫≈♥≈♫miss chief

♫≈♥≈♫miss chief Report 24 Mar 2008 12:10

My grandmother marion ryding born 1891 in the union workhouse nantwich cheshire.There are no traces of her from then till she married in 1914. i was told by my late mother thst she was taken from her parents and put in a childrens home in stockton.Has anyone any info how i can find out more. thanks for reading this. regards wendy.