Genealogy Chat

On a 1851 census return I found my GGgrandparents and possibly another 2 generation too but cannot work it out so if someone likes a puzzle...................
John Phillips Blacksmith. Salem Street Plymouth
Emma Phillips nee Gidley (and 2 children).
On the line above is Ann Gidley. Head, (who I think is Emma's mother) and Ann Donner, mother? At first I thought I had another generation but her age is 25 , could she be a married sister to Emma . Cannot work out what is under employment is either . Annuants? Any help gratefully received

I don't know but would guess she was in receipt of an annuity!

Sue

Just for reference:

Marriages Jun 1847
Gidley Matilda Emma Plymouth 9 478
Phillips John Plymouth 9 478

Thanks Sue, I know naval pensioners of the time were called by a similar name but cannot think who would give women of that time period an annuity, again i would be grateful for any suggestions .

Got that one , but thanks anyway Selena.

Does this help?

Marriages Mar 1844
DYMOND John Newton Abbot 10 255
GIDLEY Ann Newton Abbot 10 255

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1844 (>99%)
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COLLARD Elizabeth Tiverton 10 377
DALGLEISH Henry Tiverton 10 377
>>>>Donner John Tiverton 10 377
>>>>FISHER Ann Tiverton 10 377
LAZARUS John Tiverton 10 377
SATTERLY Mary Ann Tiverton 10 377
STADDON John Tiverton 10 377
TARR Jane Tiverton 10 377

I think this is your Emma in 1841

Name: Emma Gidley
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Devon, England

Civil Parish: Charles The Martyr
Hundred: Roborough
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Plymouth
Sub registration district: Charles the Martyr
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Gidley 40
Henry Gidley 20
Emma Gidley 15
Catharine Symons 11

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 271; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Charles The Martyr; County: Devon; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 23; Page: 40; Line: 7; GSU roll: 241333.

I guess that Donner could be mistaken for Dymond and it could be Emma sister. There is a another census with a Symons ? child too . I will have to check it out. Its all good leads

Do not need to look it up there it is. Thanks Jeanette Coincidence.. Dymond / Symond, and how to sort it?

There are some Gidley annuities on the National Archives site!

Sue

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/search-results.asp?CatID=15&searchType=quicksearch&pagenumber=1&query=gidley+annuity&first_date=18000101&last_date=18491231&queryType=1&sortSpec=first%5Fdate+desc&pagetitle=

Well, although I have used National Archives to get naval records didn't know that about annuities will have to check it out. Could they be widows of naval servicemen I wonder? Perhaps thats why I cannot find a record of Emmas father.

Have to log off now , thanks very very much for the help everyone

Sorry I stretched your post have pm'd you

Sue

Ok Sue, not sure what you mean by that but after all you lovely people on GR helped I forgive anyone for anything.

Dumpling

I think Sue means she has added lots that other people won't want to read - but Sue it is all interesting to the rest of us who might find a way to help.

Happy hunting

Margaret