Genealogy Chat

i am trying to trace john wilson carmichael who was a local artist(newcastle area) who is related to me . I thought that it would be quite easy but I am having no luck
thanks

Can the local library and/or museum help?

Do you know when he was around? Are we talking this century, last century, earlier?

Jill

Do you know when he was born and where?

Kath. x

Googling - John Wilson Carmichael+Newcastle brings up lots of info about a John Wilson Carmichael, not sure if it's the John your searching for though ?.

(b Newcastle, 1800; d Scarborough, 1868) British painter. John Wilson Carmichael was born in Newcastle-Upon-Tyne on January 8, 1800. He was the son of a ship's carpenter and was apprenticed to a ship builder.

http://www.invaluable.com/artist/carmichael-john-wilson-7kwfds3r86

thanks everyone.
He is the john wilson carmichael the newcastle painter he was born in newcastle in 1799 I cant find him on any census to trace his family.
Thanks for the advice cynthia
pauline

He shows in a couple of trees on Ancestry.

Parents William Carmichael and Mary - Mars or Johnson.

There are a couple of censuses the 1851 and 1861 which show a John Carmichael born in that time and place - a watchmaker. Did he earn his living from painting or was it a hobby?

Jill

Here's his birth on BVRI:

CARMICHAEL, John Wilson Christening
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 9 Jun 1799
Christening Date: 31 Jul 1799 Recorded in: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Collection: All Saints
Father: William CARMICHAEL
Mother: Mary JOHNSON
Mother's Father: James JOHNSON
Source: FHL Film 1068963 Dates: 1791 - 1807

Siblings on BVRI:

CARMICHAEL, James Christening
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1 Oct 1801
Christening Date: 1 Nov 1801 Recorded in: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Collection: All Saints
Father: William CARMICHAEL
Mother: Mary JOHNSON
Mother's Father: James JOHNSON
Source: FHL Film 1068963 Dates: 1791 - 1807

CARMICHAEL, William Christening
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1 Apr 1804
Christening Date: 30 Sep 1804 Recorded in: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Collection: All Saints
Father: William CARMICHAEL
Mother: Mary JOHNSON
Mother's Father: James JOHNSON
Source: FHL Film 1068963 Dates: 1791 - 1807

Hi Pauline

There's this in 1851:
St Pancras, Marylebone, 20 Howland St
Jno. Wilson Carmichael, head, 50, Landscape & Marine Artist
Mary, wife, 46,
Louisa, dau, 16, scholar
Fanny, dau, 7?, scholar
+Elizabeth [?], servant, 27, born Stansted, Essex.
Carmichaels all born Newcastle

1861
Pancras, St. Marks, Regents Park?, Marlebone [Maylebone]
120 St Marks Cres?
Appears as John M Carmichael, 61, Landscape & Marine Painter
Mary 56, wife
John W, son, 31
Benjamin C, son, 22
Fanny F, dau, 17
Susan Hutchinson?, servant, 20

John Wilson Carmichael died AMJ quarter 1868, Scarborough, age 68. (9d 193)