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PollyS

PollyS Report 11 Aug 2010 11:20

I'm struggling to find Dominick Gobby born about 1780s. He's on the 1841 census living with his 15 yr old son John. The census record shows his is living in district St Andrew (above the bars) enumeration District 7, Folio 14, page 21, line 19 GSU Roll 438786.

I know that Dominick died 1853 and at the time was living in Leather Lane which fits nicely with information I have found about him on the Old Bailey onliine website (he was a broker).

The problem I have is finding him on the 1851 census. I think I am having to go through the census by disctrict and each page but not sure how to start. The Ancestry site give the enumeration numbers of each district but I can't find the num 7. I assumed that the district number in 1841 would be the same in 1851. Can anyone advise please?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Aug 2010 11:40

DOMENICK GOBBY Pedigree
Male Family
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Marriages:
Spouse: HARRIET HOOLE Family
Marriage: 30 JUL 1804 Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster, London, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Aug 2010 11:40

DOMINICK GOBBY Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 25 DEC 1813 Saint Andrew, Holborn, London, England
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Parents:
Father: DOMINICK GOBBY Family
Mother: HARRIOT
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Aug 2010 11:41


DOMINIC HOOLE GOBBY Pedigree
Male

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Event(s):
Birth: 01 AUG 1829

Christening: 25 FEB 1830 Saint Andrew, Holborn, London, England
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Parents:
Father: CHARLES GOBBY Family
Mother: ISABELLA
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Aug 2010 11:42

JOHN GOBBY Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 02 JUL 1665 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England
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Parents:
Father: JEREMIE GOBBY Family
Mother: MARY
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Aug 2010 11:43

47. JOHN GOBBIE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 21 OCT 1640 Saint Bride Fleet St, London, London, England

48. JOHN GOUBE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 10 FEB 1649 Saint Ann Blackfriars, London, London, England

50. JOHN GOBBEE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 24 OCT 1660 St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Aug 2010 11:44

JOSEPH GOBEY Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 27 SEP 1798 Saint Andrew, Holborn, London, England
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Parents:
Father: JOSEPH GOBEY Family
Mother: ANN
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Aug 2010 11:45

JOSEPH GOBBY Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 25 DEC 1813 Saint Andrew, Holborn, London, England
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Parents:
Father: DOMINICK GOBBY Family
Mother: HARRIOT
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Aug 2010 11:50

JOSEPH GOBEY Pedigree
Male Family
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Marriages:
Spouse: MARIA STRIBLEHILL Family
Marriage: 21 NOV 1819 Saint Bride Fleet St, London, London, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

PollyS

PollyS Report 11 Aug 2010 12:21

Thank you all so much. I lost my internet connection after posting so it was a nice surprise to see all the replies.

Somerset girl, I'm actually in Somerset this week on holiday (porlock weir) and taking a cheeky hour to try and find Dominick while husband is walking to Minehead. You've hit the jackpot and made my day (so far :-) ). Another connection of mine and I have suspected for a time that Dominick was Italian and you've just given us the proof.

Dominick was married to Harriet Hoole whose father was Alexander Hoole, a journeyman undertaker. Dominick was a broker in Leather Lane but both families continued to take on the undertaking work in subsequent years. Domick's grandson was an undertaker I think.
They were indeed married 1804 St Martins in the Field and had several children, most of which I found through IGI and then built up a more comprehensive picture from there.

Undertaking would appear to continue in the family throughout the Victorian era and into the 1900s.

Dominick and Harriet's sond Charles is my direct ancestor and he dabbled in a number of trades from milkman, butcher and cab driver but can be found in a newspaper in the later 1800s selling off what looks like hearses and accompanying horses.

Obviously, if Dominick was Italian the English Gobby line goes back no further than him, but thank you for your time and effort in finding all the details that you hav. I fear it will be many years before I will vbecome anywhere near as competent as many on here.

Now, if anyone could find any earlier Hooles or Chantrell's ;-) Chantrell being Isabella who married Charles Gobby. Her mother appears in the same Hatton Yard area and is called Phoebe living with son Matthew. I assume Phoebe is Isabella's mother but that's as far as I have been able to go and have been stuck for ages.

Thanks again

Cheryl

PollyS

PollyS Report 11 Aug 2010 21:05

Somersetgirl, could you tell me how you found Dominic Gobby please?

If it wasn't for the enumeration details you gave I would never have found him because he is transcribed as Gateley on Ancestry. Obviously you are using something different to me.

Thanks

Cheryl

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Aug 2010 21:44

ISABELLA CHANTRELL Pedigree
Female Family
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Marriages:
Spouse: CHARLES GOBBY Family
Marriage: 08 JUN 1829 Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster, London, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Aug 2010 21:44

wonder if this is a connection?

ISSABELL CHANTRELL OR CHANNTRELL Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 19 MAR 1619 Bredon, Worcester, England
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Parents:
Father: HENRY CHANTRELL OR CHANNTRELL Family
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Aug 2010 21:46



PHOEBE LAVINIA CHANTRELL Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth: 06 DEC 1857

Christening: 27 DEC 1857 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England
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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM LEWIS CHANTRELL Family
Mother: NANCY
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Aug 2010 21:51

Chantrell's appear to come from Bruges

International Genealogical Index - Continental Europe
46. William Hardy Chantrell - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Male Birth: 10 MAY 1824 Brugge, West Vlaanderen, Belgium

47. William Hardy Chantrell - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Male Christening: 29 MAY 1825 Bruges, , , Netherlands

48. William Dowsing Chantrell - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Male Death: 16 DEC 1857 Brugge, West Vlaanderen, Belgium

49. William Dowsing Chantrell - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Male Death: 16 DEC 1857 Brugge, West Vlaanderen, Belgium

50. William Dowsing Chantrell - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Male Death: 16 DEC 1857 Brugge, West Vlaanderen, Belgium

51. William Hardy Chantrell - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Male Birth: 1892 Brugge, West Vlaanderen, Belgium

Matches: International Genealogical Index/Continental Europe - 6

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Aug 2010 21:54

International Genealogical Index - British Isles
1. Alexander Hoole - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 20 JAN 1626 North Collingham, Nottingham, England

2. Alexander Hoole - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 20 JAN 1626 Of, North Collingham, Nottingham, England

3. Alexander - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 15 JAN 1662 North Clifton, Nottingham, England

4. ALEXANDER HOOLE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 03 AUG 1827 Stanton Upon Hine Heath, Shropshire, England

Matches: International Genealogical Index/British Isles - 4

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Aug 2010 21:56

CHARLES HOOLE Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 31 JAN 1714 St Lawrence Jewry And St Mary Magdalene Milk Strlon, London, London, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN HOOLE Family
Mother: ANN
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Aug 2010 21:56

CHARLES HOOLE Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 31 JAN 1714 St Lawrence Jewry And St Mary Magdalene Milk Strlon, London, London, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN HOOLE Family
Mother: ANN
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Aug 2010 22:03

1881

John Boham CHANTRELL Head M Male 65 London Newington, London, Middlesex, England No Occ
Mary Ann CHANTRELL Wife M Female 58 Castleton Otley, York, England
William Smithson CHANTRELL Son U Male 32 Castleton, York, England Commercial Clerk General Broker
Caroline Louisa Margretta CHANTRELL Daughter U Female 24 Gargrave Leeds, York, England
Caroline NEWMAN Servant U Female 35 Knotty Ash Liverpool General Servant (Domestic)


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Source Information:
Dwelling Wallasey Breck
Census Place Wallasey, Cheshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341859
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3589 / 4
Page Number 1

PollyS

PollyS Report 11 Aug 2010 22:29

ooh thanks, quite a bit to mull over.