Genealogy Chat

Could anyone tell me whether children born in America to a USA father and British mother would be registered in USA and / or UK ? Also, could anyone advise how Brits emigrating under " Ten Pound Pom " scheme to Australia ( post WW2 ) can be traced ? All help much appreciated.

if the child was born in usa it would be registered there

passenger lists to australia are on ancestry but only go up to 1923

but there are australia electrol registers up to 1954

Thanks. Haven't found my relatives on the passenger lists. A silly question probably, but do the lists include air travellers, do you know ? As you can tell, haven't tried to trace " abroad" branches of my tree before !
Thank-you again.

to be honest i havent looked on the aussie ones, but if you give me the names and dates of births i will take a look for if you wan

the usa ones do include air travel

Thanks, that's good of you. Not much information really, but the name is Charles Benjamin Crisp, born c1909, his wife ( believed Irene Crisp ) They had two children believed to be a son and a daughter. Their destination, I think was Northern Territory. many thanks again.

where the children born in uk or australia and when approx did they emigrate please

Caroline


try this site ..... if it's working properly!!!

naa12.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx

or try entering from

www.naa.gov.au/


click on name search



I not only found some of my cousins on there (£10 Poms in the late 50s and 60s) ........... but myself!! That was much ot my surprise, but I had got a job, applied to emigrate, then had to cancel. BUT I was still on file!




sylvia

I believe the children were born in UK. Emigrated between 1954 and 1960 I believe. Charles Crisp's occupation was a tailor, and he was based in Middlesex prior to departure. Sorry to be so vague, and thanks.

Finding yourself must have been a surprise ! Thanks so much for the info, will certainly have a look. Regards. Caroline

hi cant find anything for charles cant even find his birth in uk the only charles benjamin crisp i can find married in 1908

Thanks Lorraine. The Charles Benjamin that you found was his Dad, I think, and this would be the marriage to my grandmother, Ann Ray. Makes me think that, on reflection if Charles Junior born abroad. More research needed by me, I think. Thanks for looking these up - most appreciative.

Hi Caroline,

Could this be Charles Benjamin on the 1911 census with Ann and Charles their child?

CRISP, Thomas Head Married M 49 1862 Greengrocer Shenfield Essex VIEW
CRISP, Eliza Wife Married
28 years F 46 1865 Black Notley Essex VIEW
CRISP, Charles Benjamin Son Married M 26 1885 Greengrocer Pimlico London VIEW
CRISP, Ann Margaret Wife Married
3 years F 23 1888 Rotherhithe Surrey VIEW
CRISP, Walter Ernest Son Single M 13 1898 School Fulham Midx VIEW
CRISP, Rose Daughter F 10 1901 School Chiswick Midx VIEW
CRISP, George Frederick Son M 8 1903 Chiswick Midx VIEW
CRISP, Frank Edgar Son M 5 1906 Chiswick Midx VIEW
CRISP, Charles Frederick Grandson M 2 1909 Chiswick Midx VIEW

This could be him .... it certainly looks like the one that is on that 1911 census

Births Dec 1908 (>99%)

Crisp Charles Frederick Brentford 3a 164


Brentford is the registration district that includes Chiswick




sylvia

Possible departure

Name: Mr C F CRISP
Date of departure: 21 May 1952
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Melbourne, Australia
Passenger destination: Melbourne, Australia

Date of Birth: 1909 (calculated from age)
Age: 43
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Tailors Cutter
Passenger recorded on: Page 19 of 42

Same C F Crisp again...



passenger transcript details
Name: Charles F CRISP
Date of departure: 12 April 1960
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: Melbourne, Australia
Passenger destination: Melbourne, Australia

Date of Birth: 7 November 1908
Age: 52 (calculated from DOB)
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Salesman
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 8





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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Anne I CRISP Page 1 of 8 View transcript
Florence I CRISP Page 1 of 8 View transcript



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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
JOHAN VAN OLDENBARNEVELT

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New Zealand


Marriage...Marriages Sep 1930 (>99%)
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Crisp Charles F Griffiths Brentford 3a 293
Griffiths Florence I Crisp Brentford 3a 293

Last address given on passenger image, 35. Orchard Road, Brentford.

Dates of Birth,

7/11/08 (Charles)
4/11/09 (Florence)
17/12/49 (Annie)

Chris :)

passenger transcript details
Name: Mr C F CRISP
Date of departure: 21 May 1952
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Melbourne, Australia
Passenger destination: Melbourne, Australia

Date of Birth: 1909 (calculated from age)
Age: 43
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Tailors Cutter
Passenger recorded on: Page 19 of 42





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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Miss A I CRISP Page 19 of 42 View transcript
Mstr B J CRISP Page 19 of 42 View transcript
Mrs F I CRISP Page 19 of 42 View transcript
Miss J F CRISP Page 19 of 42 View transcript



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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
ORONSAY
184415
Theodore Llewellyn Shurrock
Orient
Australia

15121.82
1422

(these were travelling with him on the details that lulabelle posted, address on image given as 16, Farm Road, Staines.

Chris :)

Yes, Yes, Yes. Orchard Road certainly correct, and a ( vaguely ) known Staines connection. Thank-you all for your help. Lots of information contained herein that I didn't know, and lots for me to follow. So very much appreciated.