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help needed to find owner of a business from 1904

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Cheryl

Cheryl Report 17 Dec 2010 17:59

Hi,

My great grandad and his brother trained as butchers in Boston, Lincolnshire. They ran a shop which they took over from the previous owner in approx 1904. The shop was called after the family name - MOUNTAIN.
There were 3 brothers who show on the 1901 census as butchers/ butchers apprentice. Jabez and John were at home with parents and George was staying with grandparents
I do not have a subscription to ancestry and do not know how to search for a business etc.
The butchers website says that Jabez started the business, but I find it hard to believe that at 19 years old he did this alone. I believe his older brother George (my great grandad) and his younger brother John were all partners.

Does anyone know of a way I could find out.
I have all the census info that I need. I hope I have given enough info but If you need any further detail, I can give it.
Thanks.

Cheryl

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 17 Dec 2010 18:09

The butchers is now called Boston Sausages. They are based in Boston Lincolnshire and she picture of the shop still shows the family name Mountain.
I know I am biased but they are the best sausages I have ever tasted. lol. They still used the original recipe too, among others.

Cathy

Cathy Report 17 Dec 2010 20:44

Is this the family Cheryl?

1901 census - household transcription
Person: MOUNTAIN, Jabez H
Address: Fodderdyke Bank (North), New Leake
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MOUNTAIN, George H Head Married M 42 1859 Carrier
New Leake Lincolnshire
MOUNTAIN, Betsy A Wife Married F 39 1862
New Leake Lincolnshire
MOUNTAIN, Jabez H Son Single M 16 1885 Butcher's Apprentice
New Leake Lincolnshire
MOUNTAIN, John H Son M 14 1887 Baker's Apprentice
New Leake Lincolnshire
MOUNTAIN, Mary E Daughter F 11 1890
New Leake Lincolnshire
HARRISON, Fred Boarder Single M 22 1879 Waggoner On Farm
Tattershall Thorpe Lincolnshire
MOUNTAIN, John Brother Single M 44 1857 Blacksmith
Deaf & Dumb From Childhood Stickford Lincolnshire

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RG number: RG13 Piece: 3073 Folio: 74 Page: 11

Registration District: Spilsby Sub District: Stickney
Enumeration District: 7 Ecclesiastical Parish: Eastville in East Fen with Midville Civil Parish: New Leake Municipal Borough:

Cathy

Cathy Report 17 Dec 2010 20:45

1911 census - household transcription
Person: MOUNTAIN, Jabes Holland
Address: 8 Main Ridge Boston
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NEEDHAM, Mary Susanna Head Single F 53 1858 Housekeeper Rutland Manton
NEEDHAM, Edwin Hewison Visitor Married M 55 1856 Pensioned Policeman Rutland Manton
MOUNTAIN, Jabes Holland Boarder Single M 26 1885 Butcher Salesman Lincolnshire East Ville
LONG, Albert Boarder Single M 26 1885 Plumber Norfolk Downham
HOWARD, Joseph Henry Boarder Single M 23 1888 Pawnbroker Assistant Lincolnshire Kirton
KEN, Walter Boarder Single M 14 1897 Butcher Apprentice Yorkshire Castleford

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RG number: RG14 Piece: 19590 Reference:
RG14PN19590 RG78PN1176 RD415 SD3 ED2 SN169

Registration District: Boston Sub District: Boston
Enumeration District: 2 Parish: Boston

Cathy

Cathy Report 17 Dec 2010 21:27

It looks like it's brother George that has the shop and his business is at home so probably lives above the shop


1911 census - household transcription
Person: MOUNTAIN, George Thomas
Address: Eastville Near Boston Lincs
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MOUNTAIN, George Thomas Head Married M 27 1884 Butcher And Grocer New Leake Lincs
MOUNTAIN, Florance Mary Wife Married F 26 1885 Assisting In Business Lincs North Butterwick
RHODES, Harry Battersby Assistant Batchelor Single M 19 1892 Butcher's Assistant Ashley Lincs
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RG number: RG14 Piece:19831 Reference:
RG14PN19831 RG78PN1187 RD420 SD1 ED6 SN27

Registration District: Spilsby Sub District: Stickney
Enumeration District: 6 Parish: Eastville

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 17 Dec 2010 21:44

Hi,
Sorry I haven't replied for a while. I had to pop round my dads as he has been taken poorly.

Cathy - yes that is my family. My mum has just told me that eventually all the brothers had their own business'. They probably all worked for the same

I wondered if there was anywhere I could view a business and the names of the people that owned it. Apparently Jabez went by the name Tom and his brother John was called Henry. These oldies don't make our lives easy do they. Thats why it's important to talk to your family eh.

Thanks again for all your help

Andysmum

Andysmum Report 18 Dec 2010 14:32

Try www.historicaldirectories.org which is a free site and, if you can find a directory for the right date, should tell you how many different businesses there were.

Cathy

Cathy Report 18 Dec 2010 18:48

Hi Andysmum,

I've tried putting that web address in but it doesn't seem to work?

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 18 Dec 2010 21:33

Thanks,
I will have a look at it.

Cheryl

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 18 Dec 2010 22:41

Kelly's Directory for Lincolnshire1900 : Extracted from entry for Boston Lincs.

Brewin, Edward James, butcher, 9 South End.
Cartwright, Daniel, butcher, 93 High St.
Clark,Fred, butcher, 18 George St.
Clarke, Charles William, butcher, Rosegarth St.
Clarke, John, butcher, Mount Ridge, Skirbeck Rd.
Crampton, Henry, Butcher, 6 Fydell St.
Creasey, Bletcher, butcher, 38 Fydell St.
Crist, George, pork butcher, 3 Market Place.
Fox, Robert Phillip, butcher 20 Stanbow Lane.
Frank Frederick and co, pork butchers 11 High St.
Garner, Herbert, butcher, 4 Vauxhall rd skirbeck.
Goode, William, butcher, 44 skirbeck road.
Harlow, Arthur, pork butcher, 50 Market place,
Leafe, Thomas, Butcher, 10 Emery Lane.
Lyell, William, butcher, 33 Wide Bargate.
Marshall, William, butcher 2 tattershall Rd.
Meggitt, george butcher 16 Witham Place.
Meggitt, Henry, Butcher, 25 Wide Bargate.
Mowbray, William H, butcher, 112 west St.
Richardson, Edward, butcher, 31 market Place.
Ryan, Frederick and Thomas, butchers, 13 high St.
Southwell, Joseph, butcher, 56 Main Ridge.
Staines, Esnighi maylen, pork butcher , 15 & 17 Wormgte.
Stones, Robert, butcher, 92 Wide bargate.
Stow, henry, butcher, 19a West St.
Tansley, james, butcher, 57 Wide Bargate.
Turner, John, butcher, 81 High st.
Waldegrave, Edward, butcher, 13 Pen st.


MR_MAGOO

MR_MAGOO Report 18 Dec 2010 23:32

This is from Ancestry....British Phone Books 1921.....if you want image PM me you email address. There are others up to 1940 i think.... this is the first that appears.

Name: J.H.T Butcher Bridge Mountain
Address: Foot
Exchange: Boston
Directory title: Birmingham / Lincoln / Chester / Hanley / Nottingham / Leicester / Coventry / Sheffield / Liverpool / Manchester / South East Lancashire / Mid-Lancashire / York / Lancaster / Newcastle / Middlesbrough / Hull / West Yorkshire
Publication Year: 1921
Directory County: Warwickshire, Cheshire, Nottinghamshire, Shropshire, Staffordshire, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire, Leicestershire, Devon, Yorkshire-West Riding
Page Number: 55

MR_MAGOO

MR_MAGOO Report 18 Dec 2010 23:46

Just noticed Cheryl that the previous post says......JHT Mountain...so that must be Jabez ?

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 19 Dec 2010 15:31

The presentday address is 13 High street,

Bridge Foot
13 High Street
Boston
Lincolnshire
PE21 8SH

which suggests the original firm were :

Ryan, Frederick and Thomas,butchers.13, High St (from my transcript of Kelly's Directory 1900 above )

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 19 Dec 2010 17:09

Thank you Malcolm and Kucinta for your help.

Bostongirl

Bostongirl Report 22 Dec 2010 15:14

Have you seen the website Cheryl?
http://www.bostonsausage.co.uk/about-boston-sausage.html

Andysmum

Andysmum Report 22 Dec 2010 21:42

Hi Cathy

The website historicaldirectories seems to have been unavailable for the past few days, but it is back again now.

Cathy

Cathy Report 23 Dec 2010 11:48


Thanks Andysmum, will have another look....thought it was me having another senior moment :-)

Merry Christmas to you all,

Cathy x

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 23 Dec 2010 15:59

Thanks Bostongirl. Yes I have seen the website thanks. My mum has ordered 8lb of sausages which arrived yesterday so I'll try some again soon. They are the original recipe too. oooh I can't wait.

Cheryl