Genealogy Chat

You could also try bastardy records. See if the mother claimed any payments for the child. This would have been done through the courts . I managed to find this for my Grandmother.
Try the records office that serves where she lived as a young baby.Long shot-but just may help

Thank you to everyone for all the help. You have all been amazing. I love this site, think I will be a regular visitor.

there are really only two faint possibilities of discovering the name of the father of an illegimate child


a) there is a family bible where the name has been noted down, and/or there are some family letters or diary

OR

b) the baby was baptised, the vicar knew the name of the father, AND the vicar was one of the few who would make a note in the margin of the church Parish Register.


In the latter case, that means you have to find out IF the baby was baptized, WHERE the baby was baptized, and then WHERE the Register is now held so that you can go and look in person at the register.





sylvia

1911

Person: CROAD, James
Address: 111 Chickerell Road Weymouth

Cost:
You will be charged 10 credits for a transcript and 30 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.


CROAD, James Head Married M 43 1868 Carpenter Joiner Dorset Weymouth VIEW
CROAD, Mary Wife Married
16 years F 38 1873 Dorset Weymouth VIEW
CROAD, Walter Son Single M 15 1896 Baker's Assistant Dorset Weymouth VIEW
CROAD, Wimefread Daughter F 11 1900 School Dorset Weymouth VIEW
CROAD, George Bozel Son M 6 1905 Dorset Weymouth VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
12354 Reference:
RG14PN12354 RG78PN702 RD263 SD2 ED15 SN71

Registration District:
Weymouth Sub District:
Weymouth Enumeration District:

4 children born in marriage - all living

You are so lucky that the name is so unusual

Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
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Croad Winifred Colenso Weymouth 5a 299
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1901

Name: Winifred E Croad
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James I Croad
Mother's Name: Mary S Croad
Gender: Female
Where born: Weymouth, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Weymouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Weymouth Holy Trinity
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England


Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Weymouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 133
Household Members: Name Age
James I Croad 33
Mary S Croad 27
Walter J Croad 5
Florence A Croad 4
Winifred E Croad 1

BUT....none of this will enable you to idetify the father of her child...........he will not be named on the birth cert

There is a tree with the birth cert on it.

22/10/1919 Winifred born 230,High st homerton registered by mum Winifred Colenso Croad domestic servant of 83 Durlston? Road Upper Clapham.

I hope I've caught you before you've spent your money.

Maryb

The birth cert wont show her fathers name as she was illegitimate .

Thanks, you have been sooooo helpful and found out in minutes what has taken me all last week. I order the cert = hope it shows a name, her daughters want to know more about the father. Take care and thanks again.

The birth cert will give her date of birth and her mothers name .In this instance she was illegitimate. and you can tell that by both surnames being the same.

There's no saying the birth IS her but its the only likely one

you cant look up births info online .you have to buy the certs .

looks like the marriiage

Name: Edna W Kill
Spouse Surname: Hutchings
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1941
Registration district: Edmonton
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 2749
Find Spouse: William A Hutchings



her death,
birth date ties with qtr of the birth I posted

Name: Edna Winifred Hutchings
Birth Date: 22 Oct 1919
Death Registration Month/Year: Apr 2000
Age at death (estimated): 80
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Register number: K13B
District and Subdistrict: 0611K
Entry Number: 293

Okay, so I have to order the cert, thats fine but how can I be sure it will give any details - or cant I? Is there no way I can look up on line?

its part of the GRO ref that you will need to quote when ordering the cert from the GRO .

Sorry to be such a dummy but what does Volume 1B and page 10198 mean?

well they married in Dorset but no Croad births for Dorset.
Name: Winifred C Croad
Spouse Surname: Kill
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1922
Registration district: Weymouth
Registration county (inferred): Dorset
Volume Number: 5a
Page Number: 808
Find Spouse: Percival G Kill



wonder ??

Name: CROAD, Winifred
Registration District: Help Hackney
County: London
Year of Registration: 1919
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Croad
Volume No: 1B
Page No: 1019

Hello Rose. Nans surname was Croad. Her illegitmate daughter was Edna Winifred born 1919 poss April. Grandads surname was Kill. She is listed as being Edna Kill on marriage records.

What's her name and date of birth?

Rose

Sorry Glitter baby, wrote my bit and then couldn't find it, as I say I am new to this, not only research but forums in general.

Maureen

Not a good idea to add two threads on the same subject.

Stick to one. If members can help they will be checking the Trying To Find, Records and Tips Boards anyway

GB

With no birth records then doubt you will find anything. Unusual for a grandad to take in ,maybe she was the illegitimate daughter of one of his children ,Or maybe he had a liason ??