Genealogy Chat

I have the Marriage cert. of Thomas Holland Wilson On 3 aug. 1927 at the register office Newport Monmouthshire he married a widow Margaret Ann Courtney nee Wilcox, aged 30 years

Thomas was 45 years old a widower, his occupation was Colliery repairer below ground His address was 90 Upper William St Treethomas Bedwas Wales His father was also Thomas Holland Wilson Foreman Excavator

I also have the birth cert of their son Robert Malcolm Wilson b 14 Nov 1929 at the same address

Even with all this info I cannot find any birth records death or census records for Thomas or his father Nor can I find his first marriage.

I would be very garateful for any assistance anyone can give.

Another child:

Births Sep 1928
Wilson Margaret J Wilcox Newport M. 11a 441

Could he have been Scottish?

Rose

Who were the witnesses to the marriage?

Rose

Like you Carol I could not find any reference to Thomas Holland Wilson however there is a tree on Ancestry for a Thomas Holland Deakin and in brackets Wilson.

I usually don't take any notice of Ancestry trees (from personal experience...don't ask!) however this tree seems extremely detailed so may be worth taking a look...if your have a sub that is...let me know if not. William Street, Trethomas. Bedwas is mentioned.

Linda x

Only record on FreeBMD is -

Births Mar 1855 (>99%)
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Deakin Thomas Holland Wellington Sp 5c 703
Deakin Thomas Holland Wellington Sp 6a 703

with the following Postem -

Please note that '5c' above should be '6a'. Thomas Holland Deaken was born on 2 Jan 1855 in Hay Bridge, Hadley, Wellington, SALOP. Not in Somerset!
SmC - grand daughter of Thomas Holland Deakins, sometimes spelt Deacon.

Rose

The witnesses were John Tomlinson and Margretta Wilson

Linda B and Lynn

I dont subscribe to Ancestry but your find is very interesting.
Treethomas was a very small Village and Holland is an unusual name.

Maybe they changed names from Deakin to Wilson

I will have a look at Deakin on Genes.

Thank you for you replies

From the tree that Linda B found it states that this is his first marriage;

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
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Marriages Sep 1913
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Bagley Rose L Wilson Pontypridd 11a 1249
Wilson Thomas D Bagley Pontypridd 11a 1249


And his father died at this address;

92 William Street, Trethomas, Bedwas, Wales


So I would say that Linda B maybe on the right tracks here.


Deex

Looking at the tree on ancestry the 1891 census is missing........ I think this maybe them;

1891 England Census
about Thomas Holland
Name: Thomas Holland
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Holland
Mother's Name: Susan Holland
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheddar, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Bedminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bedminster
Sub-registration district: Bedminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Holland 33 >>>>> Born Scotland, however this is the birthplace of his father!
Susan Holland 28 >> born Brecon Wales
Sarah Holland 8 >. Born Penarth, Wales
Thomas Holland 5
John Holland 2


Dee x

thank you Dee

are you able to tell me the name of the persons tree where the info comes from, they may have a tree on Genes also


Carol

Hi Carol,

Funnily enough her name is Carol!!

Look like she hasn't logged on for a while though. Now if you wanted to PM me your email address I could forward that in a message fr her and hopefully she may contact you direct??

Dee x

Thanks Dee

have sent you my email address

regards Carol

Hi Carol,

got your Pm, I've sent a message with your email.

Dee x

Hi Carol,

Carol from Ancestry has messaged me............. LindaB got the correct family and she is going to contact you and see if you can help eachother out.

Good news!!!

Happy hunting to both Carols,


Dee x

Thank you so much for your help Dee Linda B Lynn and Rose

Regards

Carolx

Wonderful news Dee!

Good luck Carol.

Linda x

I am researching the above family as well on behalf of my husband. His Great Great Grandfather was Thomas Holland Deacon who married a Susannah Bagley (Susan). Thomas and Susan's eldest dau Sarah Holland Deacon married a Daniel Hutchinson, they had 12 children. Their dau Rose was my husband's grandmother.

If you think we may have information to share please get in touch,

Sian

Hi Sian,

I would click onto Carol's name, this will then send her a private message which will show in her emails. (The message wont show, but it will show there is a message waiting here for her)

Dee x