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Hi trying to trace records on my grandads family. His name was Frederick G Cubitt on his death certificate it has him as Frederick Barratt Cubitt. I am trying to trace either side of his family. Believe his mother was called Agnes do not know maiden name and dont know his fathers name. He was born 1913 he married a Annie Cundiff, I have found there marriage certificate. I am really stuck. Believe he was born in Either Colne or Bacup. Any help greatly appreciated.

His Father's name will be on his marriage certificate, surely?
When and where did he die?
Thanks

Added:
Frederick Barrett Cubitt
Birth Date: 8 Oct 1913
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1980
Age at Death: 67
Registration district: Southampton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 1522

This is the only birth that fits:
Births Dec 1913
CUBITT FRED SENGER Manchester 8d 382
Added:
It looks like Seager on the page

This marriage:
Marriages Sep 1912
Cubitt Fred Seager Haslingden 8e 343
Seager Agnes Cubitt Haslingden 8e 343

The marriage of the parents for the birth that Patchem found?

Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)

Cubitt Fred Seager Haslingden 8e 343

Seager Agnes Cubitt Haslingden 8e 343

You need to buy some marriage and birth certificates to confirm what has been found.
Then we can try and find them in 1911 census, and previous, and their families.

This pension record on Ancestery lists Fred (born Accrington) and his wife Agnes - formerly Seager as having a child Fred born on 8 October 1913.
Agree re certs

Name: Fred Cubitt
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Age at enlistment: 25
Birth County: Lancashire
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 47827
Regiment Name: Royal Garrison Artillery
Number of images: 17

Edit - Fred above was invalided out of the army with heart problems

Fred above appears to have died in 1918. Maybe this marriage could explain where the middle name of Barrett came from.

Name: Agnes Cubitt
Spouse Surname: James Barritt
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1920
Registration district: Burnley
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 473

Hi All. Thank you so much for your help. I have delved into this side of my family and asked questions of relatives and believe that the Fred Cubitt & Agnes Seager found are my Great Grandparents (99.9%) sure. I was wondering if anyone could give me advice, at the moment I am a standard member, what is the difference between standard and platinum I am thinking of upgrading. Vanessa :-)

I am not platinum - I use ancestry, and fmp for 1911.

i would recomend Ancestry or Find My Past if you want to upgrade for more records.

You can take a 14 day free trial to Ancestry. You have to give your debit or credit card details so you need to cancel before the 14 day trial is up otherwise you will get charged . When i took the trial first I cancelled on day 12 just to be safe.

I thought ancestry was quite expensive? How good is it? and how easy are the searches?

I use Ancestry and Find My Past as well . I would also recommend a 14 day trial on Ancestry. It is easy to use, but I always use - the old search - rather than the new search facility on the site. There is an option on the search page

Ok I am going to try the free trail will let you know what happens. Thanks. Vanessa :-D

Have contacted some people who share my great great grandfather on there trees. One has told me I have got my tree wrong but how can that be when I have birth & marriage certs for all concerned. :-S

What does that person claim is wrong in your tree?
It could be their tree that is wrong.
Some people do not like to admit they are wrong.

just to confirm that the Barritt marriage is the same Agnes

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1920
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BARRITT * James CUBITT Agnes Burnley, Holy Trinity Preston CE104/15/46
BARRITT * James SEAGER Agnes Burnley, Holy Trinity Preston CE104/15/46

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 about Fred Cubitt
Name: Fred Cubitt
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Age at enlistment: 25
Birth County: Lancashire / Accrington
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 47827
Regiment Name: Royal Garrison Artillery
Number of images: 17

Wife Agnes son Fred born Manchester
8 10 13 ?


1891 England Census about Fred Cubitt
Name: Fred Cubitt
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Stephen Cubitt
Mother's Name: Maria Cubitt
Gender: Male
Where born: Accrington, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Accrington
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Accrington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Accrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3356
Folio: 33
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Cubitt 42
Maria Cubitt 40
Annie Evans 19
Mary Ellen Cubitt 41
Herbert Cubitt 11
Bessie Cubitt 8
Eliza Cubitt 3
Fred Cubitt 1
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Births Dec 1913 (>99%)

CUBITT FRED SENGER Manchester 8d 382

Hi All thanks for all info Fred Cubitt born 1913 was my grandfather. His father is the Fred in army records and Stephen was my Great Great grandfather. I have all birth Certs for these and marriage certs, I think maybe my tree is correct and maybe the other person has got it a little wrong somewhere. I do not think contacting this person is a good idea as they might not like to be told there tree is wrong. Never mind I will carry on researching as I have been doing. :-D

1881 England Census
about Annie G. Evans
Name: Annie G. Evans
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Step Daughter
Mother's Name: Maria Cubitt
Gender: Female
Where born: Syleham, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Accrington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 58 Pitt St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Accrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4140
Folio: 83
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Stephen Cubitt 32
Maria Cubitt 30
Annie G. Evans 9 STEP DAU**************
Mary E. Cubitt 4
Herbert Cubitt 1



1891 England Census
about Annie Evans
Name: Annie Evans
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Sister-in-Law
Gender: Female
Where born: Syleham, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Accrington
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Accrington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Accrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3356
Folio: 32
Page Number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Stephen Cubitt 42
Maria Cubitt 40
Annie Evans 19 ****Sister in Law???????????
Mary Ellen Cubitt 41
Herbert Cubitt 11
Bessie Cubitt 8
Eliza Cubitt 3
Fred Cubitt 1

all above children mmn = Evans

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1882
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
CUBITT Bessie Accrington Preston EVANS ACC/59/52
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1884
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
CUBITT Arthur Accrington Preston EVANS ACC/63/85
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1885
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
CUBITT Willie Accrington Preston EVANS ACC/66/76
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1887
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
CUBITT Eliza Accrington Preston EVANS ACC/71/18
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1889
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
CUBITT Fred Accrington Preston EVANS ACC/75/79

Hi Ann thank you for info. Stephen Cubitt is my Great Great Grandfather, Fred is my Great Grandfather and Fred son was called Frederick he was my grandfather. I have birth certs for all the above three and marriage certs also. I think the other person had a problem with Stephens mother maiden name for some reason. But I have the confirmation of Stephens mother & father, I think were it gets confusing is Stephens father William was married twice. Thanks once again for help. Vanessa