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From my great grandmother Eliza Smith's birth cert, I know her mother was Annie Powley. She 'married' Charles Smith also known as Charles Colledge. < No marriage to be found, and I cant even see a birth for her. 1st child born 1885. I have them together with children in 1891 and 1911. Cant see them in 1901. Always Arnold or Redhill in Nottingham, and the census says she was born 1862 in Arnold, Nottingham. But I cant get further back with her. No-one on Genes seems to have her in their tree and Ive checked on Curious Fox, IGI, and googled. Any ideas? Powley is an unusual surname. PS, Have just found an Annie Pooley marriage for 1885 which may be her.

Many thanks JC, I'll have to order the cert methinks. Have been chasing possibles with this lot :-(

Maybe them 1901? Spelt Colledge on image. Charles is a coal miner if it helps.

1901 England Census

Name: Annie College
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles College
Gender: Female
Where born: Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Arnold
Ecclesiastical parish: Daybrook St Paul
Town: Arnold
County/Island: Nottinghamshire

Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Arnold
Charles College 39
Annie College 39
Harry College 14
Maria College 14
Emma N College 11
Isaac College 9
Charles College 7
Thomas College 5
Eliza College 3
Ada College 1

There is this birth in the right year

Births Jun 1862 (>99%)
POOLEY Ann Mary Basford 7b 152

found this for 1861 - disappear after this census - could be her parents -



1861

POWLEY, Robert Head Married M 23 1838 Gardener
Arnold
Nottinghamshire VIEW
POWLEY, Elizabeth Wife Married F 22 1839 Gardeners Wife
Arnold
Nottinghamshire VIEW
POWLEY, Joseph Henery Son M 0 (9M) 1861
Arnold
Nottinghamshire VIEW
HUNT, Joseph Lodger Unmarried M 32 1829 Engineer
Arnold
Nottinghamshire VIEW

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Piece:
2443 Folio:
50 Page:
12 Registration District:
Basford

Civil Parish:
Arnold Municipal Borough:
Address:
Arnold Grove, Church Street, Arnold County:
Nottinghamshire






Marriages Mar 1858 (>99%)
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COOKE William Basford 7b 103
DENISON Mary Ann Basford 7b 103
>>>>>DEXTER Elizabeth Basford 7b 103
>>>>>Powley Robert Basford 7b 103
Severn Thomas Basford 7b 103



Births Sep 1860 (>99%)
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POWLEY Joseph Henry Basford 7b 135

on the 1911 census it says married 25 years so should be married about 1885/6

1911 census

Address: High St Arnold


Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

COLLEDGE, Charles Head Married M 48 1863 Boot Repairer Brackenfield Derbyshire
COLLEDGE, Annie Wife Married 25 years F 48 1863 Arnold Nottinghamshire
COLLEDGE, Harry Son Single M 4 1907 Coal Miner Hewer Arnold Nottinghamshire
COLLEDGE, Maria Daughter Single F 24 1887 Laundry Maid Arnold Nottinghamshire
COLLEDGE, Beatrice Daughter Single F 22 1889 Hoisery Hand Finisher Arnold Nottinghamshire
COLLEDGE, Norah Daughter Single F 21 1890 Hosery Hand Cutter Out Arnold Nottinghamshire
COLLEDGE, Isaac Son Single M 18 1893 Coal Miner Gange Arnold Nottinghamshire
COLLEDGE, Charles Son Single M 16 1895 Coal Miner Gange Arnold Nottinghamshire
COLLEDGE, Thomas Son M 14 1897 Coal Miner Gange Arnold Nottinghamshire
COLLEDGE, Eliza Daughter F 13 1898 Laundry Maid Arnold Nottinghamshire
COLLEDGE, Ada Daughter F 11 1900 School Arnold Nottinghamshire

They seem to alternate between the names, I think Charles was illegitimate. THANKYOU so much people, I'll copy this down and work my way through it. Sorry for late reply, had to cook dinner. Thankyou for all your help!! x

Digressing somewhat!


Marriages Dec 1862 (>99%)
Colledge William Chesterfield 7b 897
Nuttall Joseph Chesterfield 7b 897
Smith Maria Chesterfield 7b 897
Sowter Elizabeth Chesterfield 7b 897


1871 England Census

Name: Charles Colledge
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Colledge
Mother's Name: Maria Colledge
Gender: Male
Where born: Brackenfield, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Wessington
Ecclesiastical parish: Wessington
Town: Wessington
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Ashover
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 116
Piece: 3608
Folio: 55
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
William Colledge 28
Maria Colledge 29
Charles Colledge 9
William Colledge 8
Thomas Colledge 6
Isaiah Colledge 11 Months

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This looks like the couple and baptism JC found - maybe the couple never married or married post Annie's birth

1871

Name: Johnathan Yates
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria Yates
Gender: Male
Where born: Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Arnold
Town: Arnold
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Arnold
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 15
Piece: 3492
Folio: 28
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Johnathan Yates 39 Cordwainer
Maria Yates 35
William Yates 13
Ann Mary Yates 8
Elizabeth Yates 6
Harry Yates 5
Eliza Ann Yates 4
Emma Yates 2

and Maria in 1861??

Name: Maria Pooley
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Pooley
Gender: Female
Where born: Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Arnold
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Arnold
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 35
Piece: 2443
Folio: 99
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Pooley 60
Maria Pooley 25
Eliza Pooley 20

There is this marriage with a man missing

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1863 (>99%)
BARROWCLIFF Thomas Nottingham 7b 329
>>>>POOLEY Maria Nottingham 7b 329
Wilson Mary Ann Nottingham 7b 329

K, you are a genius. I hadnt realised I had these last 2 messages, thankyou so much. Have received Annie's marriage cert, her father was Jonathan Yates! So it must be her as Ann Mary Yates on the census, same age. The Pooley birth cert confuses me but Im making tracks in a slow fashion, thankyou for your ideas!!

Glad it worked out at least partly. Do you have the 1862 birth cert for Ann Mary Pooley?

Good Luck Kay

hi
i have nottinghamshire disc of baptisms marriages and burials if you need any help
all the best lorraine

Thanks Kay. Just received birth cert today, no father listed for Annie (Ann Mary). Nothing else given away but at least I know. Zombie, I would be so grateful if you could do a quick look up for a possible baptism for Ann/Annie Pooley in Arnold, Nottingham, if you have some spare time? She was born 21/04/1862 to single mother Maria Pooley. Not sure if I should PM you or not. But anything would be wonderful.

Just received birth cert today, no father listed for Annie (Ann Mary). Nothing else given away but at least I know. Zombie, I would be so grateful if you could do a quick look up for a possible baptism for Ann/Annie Pooley in Arnold, Nottingham, if you have some spare time? She was born 21/04/1862 to single mother Maria Pooley. Or a marriage for Maria Pooley in Dec quarter 1863. (Been told Jonathan's wife on the 1871 was a different Maria, although Im dubious as Annie is living there too as Annie Yates. The mind boggles.) Not sure if I should PM you or not. But anything would be wonderful.

?? possible as one name missing??

Marriages Dec 1863 (>99%)
BARROWCLIFF Thomas Nottingham 7b 329
POOLEY Maria Nottingham 7b 329
Wilson Mary Ann Nottingham 7b 329

I think thats her marriage thanks Jan but when I ordered the cert I was refunded as the cert 'doesnt exist'. So am no nearer. :-S

Have you tried ordering without the reference number?
Jan

Do you know, I never thought of that. I might have to give it a go. Am so used to providing the ref numbers! Thankyou.

Johnathan is a widower 1881 so I guess this is Maria's death, not that it helps particularly!

Deaths Mar 1872 (>99%)
YATES Maria 36 Basford 7b 108

Jan