Genealogy Chat

I have an obituary from the Argus in Melbourne 10 Feb 1942 which tells of my rels. William Helton (father) and William Leo (son) Daniell deaths. It says that the son was a direct descendent of Sir Charles Tennant of England, great grandson of Sir William Macartney BT Donegal Ireland, great grandfather was Lt Christopher Moss killed in the Battle of Sebastopol (Crimea), his uncle Leo killed in the last war (WW1), and grandfather was Inspector of Police in Sydney. I have proof of the last 3 items, but am trying to get from William Leo to Sir Charles Tennant, to Sir William Macartney BT, and to Lt Christopher Moss family tree wise. Is this an easy! bridge to cross? I have spent weeks on this and got dead ends, but many new family trees found! Any help would be appreciated. I want to point out that Danniell, Moss, Tennant families already feature in this branch of my tree.

Is this one of yours?

Lionel Tennent MOSS

Regimental number 1750
Place of birth Murrumburrah, New South Wales
Other training Clerk
Religion Roman Catholic
Occupation Clerk
Address 143 West Street, North Sydney, New South Wales
Marital status Single
Age at embarkation 22
Next of kin Mother, Mrs W T Moss, Bowood, 143 West Street, North Sydney, New South Wales
Enlistment date 1 June 1915
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Sydney, New South Wales, on board HMAT A61 Kanowna on 19 June 1915
Rank from Nominal Roll 2nd Lieutenant
Unit from Nominal Roll 20th Battalion
Other details from Roll of Honour Circular Was a grandson of the late Lt Christopher Tennant Moss of No 1 Company 6th Battery Royal Artillery who was killed at the storming of Sebastopol in 1855 at the age of 25 years
Fate Killed in Action 11 August 1918
Place of death or wounding Somme, France
Age at death 25

Before anyone starts looking - where have you searched?

As it is the SON who is described as being directly descended from these people, you must follow his mother's line.

Who was she?

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Marriages Mar 1842 (>99%)
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BALLS Martha Dartford 5 110
BROWN William Barrington Dartford 5 110
EDWARDS Mary Lester Dartford 5 110
LENCY Sarah Ann Dartford 5 110
MOSS Christopher Tennant Dartford 5 110
WELCH Joseph Dartford 5 110

CHRISTOPHER TENNANT MOSS Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 23 JUN 1843 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: CHRISTOPHER TENNANT MOSS Family
Mother: SARAH


Extracted record

If the above records are for the right person - he was older than 25 when he died at Sebastopol

Hiya,
I think your Christoper Tennant Moss was the one listed as bap.
name: Christopher Tennant Moss
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 22 Jun 1843
baptism/christening place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
father's name: Thomas Moss
mother's name: Mary Moss
indexing project (batch) number: I07614-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1545615

although it woulddepend on how old he was when he was christened as there is this marriage

groom's name: Christopher Tennent Moss
bride's name: Eliza Mccartney
marriage date: 10 Feb 1852
marriage place: Carrigrohane, Cork, Ire
groom's father's name: Thomas Tennent Moss
bride's father's name: James William Mccartney
indexing project (batch) number: M70206-4
system origin: Ireland-VR
source film number: 101335

I wonder??
name: Christopher T. Moss
event: Military Service
rank out: Sergeant
side: Union
state (or origin): Union Regular Army
military unit: 10th Regiment, US Infantry (Regular Army)
company: B
general note: See original roster for additional information.
nara publication title: "Register of Enlistments in the U.S. Army, 1798-1914."
nara publication number: M233
nara roll number:

??
name: Christopher T. Moss
also known as: Thomas Moss
event: Military Service
rank in: Private
side: Union
state (or origin): New York
military unit: 3rd Regiment, New York Cavalry
general note: Original filed under Thomas/Moss.
nara publication title: Index to Compiled Service Records of Volunteer Union Soldiers Who Served in Organizations From the State of New York.
nara publication number: M551
nara roll number:

Kelllie

Another thread here seems to be about the same family:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/general_topics/thread/1171320

Information on trees on ancestry is that Lt Christopher Tennant Moss of No 1 Company 6th Battery Royal Artillery who was killed at the storming of Sebastopol in 1855 at the age of 25 years during the Crimean War

This means that he was born about 1830.


His wife is shown as Elizabeth, with marriage occurring in Ireland, and his son William Tennant Moss born ca 1855, in Ireland.




sylvia

from ancestry

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958 about Christopher Tennent Moss

Name: Christopher Tennent Moss
Date of Registration: 1852
Registration district: Cork
Volume: 4
Page: 438
FHL Film Number: 101244

Spouse Eliza McCartney



sylvia

But there was also this earlier marriage in England for a Christopher Tennant Moss, that Reggie posted earlier.

Is this the same guy???? If so, what happened to the wife he married in Kent?


Dartford is in Kent


Marriages Mar 1842 (>99%)

BALLS Martha Dartford 5 110
BROWN William Barrington Dartford 5 110
EDWARDS Mary Lester Dartford 5 110
LENCY Sarah Ann Dartford 5 110
MOSS Christopher Tennant Dartford 5 110
WELCH Joseph Dartford 5 110


W B Brown married Mary L Edwards


but I cannot determine whether this Christopher Tennant Moss married Martha Balls or Sarah Ann Lency




sylvia

Hi,
If the Christopher Tennant Moss who died 1855 aged 25yo is the one we are after,,,so birth about 1830...that would make him only 12yo at the 1842 marriage..

Kellie

Thanks to all those people who have replied so far, I am chasing up info and the link is that Eliza Macartney married Christopher Moss, so now have a new interest to chase. Dale