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Hi everyone,

I have Ancestry but not world wide subscription 1911 Census Fanny (could be Norris) and George William (1880) living in Sheffield with daughter May 1 child 0 died.

A William Checkley born 1905 Sheffield is in workhouse his parents were Fanny and George William (same ages at those on Census) could they be the same family and parents lied.

Fanny disappears cannot find a death but Ancestry mentions a Fanny Checkley on passenger list but I don't have access to that.

Wonder what everyone thoughts are, I am out in a couple of hours for most of the day so please accept my apologies if I don't answer straight away

Any ideas.

Thanks

Lesley

Name: Fanny Checkley
Gender: Female
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Date of Arrival: 15 May 1913
Vessel: Manchester Commerce
Search Ship Database: View the 'Manchester Commerce' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Manchester, England
Roll: T-4795

Travelling with a 4 year old child. Going to join husband in Ontario.


Also:

Name: Fanny Checkley
Gender: Female
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Date of Arrival: 16 Oct 1919
Vessel: Canada
Search Ship Database: View the 'Canada' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14702

Travelling with 2 children, May and Cyril? (Male) both aged 11. Going to Fort William. Ontario.

Returning?

Name: Fanny Checkley
Birth Date: abt 1883
Age: 36
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 20 Jul 1919
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Metagama
Search Ship Database: View the 'Metagama' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific
Official Number: 136791

Travelling with May. Going to 13 Dutton Rd, Sheffield.


Name: Fanny Checkley
Birth Date: abt 1883
Age: 47
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 7 Jun 1930
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Duchess of Richmond
Search Ship Database: View the 'Duchess of Richmond' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Steamship Line
Official Number: 160631

Going to "Rock End", Wood Lane, Sheffield.

Gosh Jonsey

how quick you were, does it give any details of the husband - eg is it George William born 1880.

Anybody any ideas why they would leave a child behind or coutd it be a different Checkley family.

Also of Interest I'm sure:

Name: May Checkley
Birth Place: Sheffield, England
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907
Father Name: George Checkley
Mother Name: Frances Norris
Spouse Name: Hubert Badanai
Spouse's Age: 31
Spouse Birth Place: Azzano Italy
Spouse Father Name: Louis Badanai
Spouse Mother Name: Anna Santin
Marriage Date: 7 Jul 1924
Marriage Location: Thunder Bay District
Marriage County or District: Thunder Bay

Name: May Checkley
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1907
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Inferred County: Derbyshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 419

P.S. Cannot spot the husband travelling to Canada yet but still looking.

This one has got me wondering:

Name: George William Checkley
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1879
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 530

Name: George William Checkley
Arrival Date: 19 Apr 1916
Birth Year: abt 1880
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: birmingham
Age: 35 Years 7 Months
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Lapland

N.B. No idea where the birthplace Birmingham comes from as I cannot spot it on the Passenger list. He is a married Machinist and his nearest relative in the UK is his mother Elizabeth Checkley.

EDIT Probably a red herring as I have also found thisL

Canadian WW1 attestation Papers dated 1918:

Name: William George Checkley
Residence: New York City, United States of America
Birth Date: 13 Aug 1881
Birth Location: Birnmingham, England
Relative: Dorothy Checkley
Relationship: Wife
Regiment Number: 3233151
Address is actually New York

Also

US WW1 Draft card Undated but with a wife, Dorothy

Name: George William Checkley
City: South Boston
County: Suffolk
State: Massachusetts
Birth Date: 13 Aug 1881
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1684938
DraftBoard: 9

1891:
Name: William G Checkley
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Walter R Checkley
Mother's Name: Elizabeth A Checkley
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: St James Westminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Westminster
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: St James Westminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 87
Folio: 139
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter R Checkley 36
Elizabeth A Checkley 29
William G Checkley 9
Arthur W Checkley 7
Adelaid Bryant 21

Getting back to the William Checkley that you found in the 1911 census.

William is a patient, one of 586, not an inmate, in the Sheffield Union Hospital in Fir Vale, Sheffield. The census indicates that his birthplace is unknown.

How have you associated him with George William and Fanny Checkley who are living at 106 Woodseats Rd ?

Have you got a copy of this birth certificate to establish who his parents were?

Births Jun 1905
Checkley William Sheffield 9c 659

Just for reference:

Marriages Sep 1899
Checkley George William Sheffield 9c 807
NORRIS Fanny Sheffield 9c 807

Thanks for your help it is definately George William,and not William George I need to get in touch with friend to see if they have birth cert for William as that would solve the problem of whether it was same family as that in the 1911 census.

What happend to Williams parents I cannot be sure unless they lied and had more than one child and he was in the hospital will try and find out more information and be in in contact again.

Lesley

There were a number of Checkley families living in and around Sheffield in 1901 and 1911. Only the birth certificate for William will resolve who his parents were. Most unlikely to have been George William and Fanny I would have thought.

Found him:

George William Checkley travelling to Canada in 1912

Name: George Checkley
Gender: Male
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Date of Arrival: 31 May 1912
Vessel: Virginian
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4786

Occupation: Fitter

Travelling on to Fort William, Ontario

Thanks for your help I have emailed my friend for more details and will let you know if he comes up with anything to interest.

Where does Northampton come into this?