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Why can't I find their marriage?

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~Looby Loo~

~Looby Loo~ Report 1 May 2012 19:40

I'm struggling to find the marriage of my 2 x great grandparents.

She was born Marion / Marian / Mary Ann Godfrey in 1852 London and he was Edward Stokes b 1843 Birmingham. Their 1st child was born in Birmingham in 1870 but I can't find the family in 1871 and I have her birth certificate which confirms her mother's maiden name.

I have tried free bmd / ancestry / and LDS with no luck.

Anyone have any other ideas please?

Thanks Lou

Researching:
Baker, Blann. Coyne, Jackman, Parr, Price,

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 1 May 2012 19:47

1881 is this the correct family ?

Name: Edward Stokes
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Marian Stokes
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Harborne
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: Middlemore Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Brass Dresser

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Harborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2962
Folio: 89
Page Number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Stokes 38
Marian Stokes 29
Lily M. Stokes 9
William Stokes 5
William Senior 25
Mark W. Rivette 45



Which child was born 1870 ?



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Births Jun 1870 (>99%)
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Stokes Lilly Maria Birmingham 6d 97

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~Looby Loo~

~Looby Loo~ Report 1 May 2012 19:59

Hi GlitterBaby,

Yes that's them. That's Lilly Maria Stokes' birth

Regards, Lou

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Baker, Blann. Coyne, Jackman, Parr, Price,

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 1 May 2012 23:32

Are you sure of Edward's first name? It is just that there is this marriage:-

Name: GODFREY, Maria
Registration district: Thanet
County: Kent
Year of registration: 1876
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 2A
Page no: 1064

On the same page is James John Stokes.

I know it is out of the area and the name is wrong but it's all I can find.

Kath. x

~Looby Loo~

~Looby Loo~ Report 2 May 2012 21:02

Hi Kath,

As far as the info I have I'm sure that's his name as it's on his daughter's birth & marriage certificate and 1881 census.

But thanks for looking anyway. I do appreciate your time and efforts, but it' is strange that neither of us can find it.

But thanks again, it's much appreciated.

Regards, Lou

Researching:
Baker, Blann. Coyne, Jackman, Parr, Price,

wisechild

wisechild Report 3 May 2012 07:48

Possibly they never actually married.
He was quite a bit older than her. Maybe he was already married, so not free & when she got pregnant, they moved in together as man & wife.
Might be worth looking for a previous marriage for him.

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 3 May 2012 08:27

LL,

As you have got a copy of the 1870 birth certificate of Lilly Maria have you followed up on the address where she was born or the address (If different) of the person who registered the birth?

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