Genealogy Chat

Nicola


Unfortunately, the fact that he is to shown as deceased on the marriage certificate is NOT definitive.

It depends on so much

.............. the vicar might not have been very clear in his question "Father's name". This does NOT necessarily mean "and is he still alive?"! So the answer might be just the name

.............. the child may not in fact know whether father is dead or alive.



Similarly, the fact that a father is shown as deceased is also not definitive!

No certificates have to be shown to prove it.




sylvia

Apologies for not replying sooner, but i am new to this and didn't realise i had any replies until i got an email!

Very many thanks to all for their efforts in trying to help with my elusive great grandad! I did have all this info, but am really grateful for all your help.

I too found the Reginald that died in the war but discounted him - i cannot remember why now :-)

One of his children, my grandad, married in 1941 and he is listed on that with no note that he is deceased. When Reginald's wife died in 1970 it states widow on her DC. I have asked my father if he remembers Reginald but he remembers being told he went off to america - i have heard that story a few times before for relations.

A good idea with getting the marriage certificate for his last child - who is still alive but I have no contact with - i shall try this angle.

I just thought someone out in the ether might know of him! Thank you again - what detectives you are.

Surely this is the 'wrong' one, who dies in WW1, but Nicola has not got back, so immaterial;
Births Sep 1895
Goldsborough Reginald Charles Barton R. 6a 70

Sylvia and Shirley,

I agree that it is unlikely that someone from Kent would serve with a Wiltshire regiment, but I had an uncle born and bred in Birmingham who died serving with the West Surrey Queen's Royal Regiment, so we should be careful not to discount such a possibility.It was during WW2 so recruitment may have been different by then.

Would seem if Reginald died before Florence she didnt remarry. You may have to do a process of elimination by getting some certs Ie the marriage certs of the children to see if he is listed as deceased on their certs.

Florence's death cert should say if she was wife or widow of.

I would be inclined to get the marriage cert of the last child who married to see what that says about Reginald

Sylvia :-D

I misunderstood your posting sorry. I get what you meant now .

At least we are on the same wavelength lol

Shirley


I agree ........ the Melksham one is not him ....


............ I thought that the info that I posted just above proved that, and thus also discounted JenE's posting.

Reginald was born in Strood Kent which is in the SE of England whereas Wiltshire is in the SW of England so don't think that Melksham one is him

name: Reginald Alfred C Goldsbrough
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1886
Registration district: Strood
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 508

I don't think that death found by JenE is YOUR Reginald.

I found this ........ which seems to fit JenE's info


http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Wiltshire/Melksham.html

MELKSHAM WAR MEMORIAL

World War 1 & 2 - Roll of Honour with detailed information

GOLDSBOROUGH Reginald [Charles]


Private 10941, 2nd Battalion, Duke of Edinburgh's (Wiltshire Regiment). Killed in action 10th March 1915. Born bristol, enlisted Devizes, resident Melksham. No known grave. Commemorated on LE TOURET MEMORIAL, Pas de Calais, France. Panel 33 and 34.






sylvia

2 children born after 1911 but none after WW1

Name: Herbert A Goldsbrough
Mother's Maiden Name: Seabourn
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1912
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 428

Name: Marjorie A Goldsbrough
Mother's Maiden Name: Seabourn
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1915
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 479



1911 census transcription details for: 147 Plashet Lane East Ham

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National Archive Reference:
RG14PN9523 RG78PN509 RD188 SD5 ED4 SN337
Reg. District: West Ham
Sub District: South East Ham
Parish: East Ham
Enum. District: 4
Address: 147 Plashet Lane East Ham
County: Essex
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
GOLDSBROUGH, Reginald Head Married M 27 1884 Decorator Chatham
GOLDSBROUGH, Florence Wife Married
4 years F 24 1887 Custom House
GOLDSBROUGH, Charles Son Single M 2 1909 Plaistow
GOLDSBROUGH, Doris Daughter Single F 1 1910 East Ham

Could he have died during WW1?
Look on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website. There is a Reginald Charles Goldsborough, Wiltshire regiment, died 10/3/1915 (Slight surname spelling variation).

Didn't find his death, but here's his school admission:

Name: Reginald Goldsbrough
Age: 10
Birth Date: 10 Sep 1886
School: St Patrick's Roman Catholic School
Borough: Greenwich
Admission Date: 14 Sep 1896
Parent: Charles
Notes: Saint Thomas's Church of England School (0449) opened in or before 1892. Closed or reorganised in 194-
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV06/STTHO1/AD/001

Address 64 Sand Street. Previous school attended was Strood.

His birth record is also 1886:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Reginald Alfred C Goldsbrough
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1886
Registration district: Strood
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 508

this looks like his wife -


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Florence Marion Goldsbrough
Birth Date: 2 Nov 1885
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1970
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Hampstead
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5b
Page: 1769

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920

Name: Reginald A C Goldsbrough
Regiment or Corps: Royal Field Artillery
Regimental Number: 38548

Where/when do you last know him to
have been alive?

Reginald Alfred Charles Goldsbrough
Born 10 September 1885, Strood, Kent
Married Florence Marion Seabourn May 1908, West Ham
1911 census, living in East Ham
I cannot find a death record anywhere for my Great Grandfather listed
above - any help would be appreciated.