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Would like to see what conclusions others reach.
Grandfather was born John Gallaugher 1882 in Walsall Staffs but used Gallagher spelling later. I have his birth certificate which gives father as John & mother Annie Gallaugher (nee Marsden). On the 1911 census Grandfather gives his birth as Methley in Yorkshire which is wrong. In 1911 Annie is living in Huddersfield using her maiden name and I think they quite likely never were married. My mother only ever saw her grandfather once as her father turned him away and would have nothing to do with him.
What I am looking for is who do others place as my grandfathers grandfather. It looks like there are only 2 choices and what percentage chance would you give each, if you reach the same conclusion as me?
Just if you have time and are bored - it's just the one area of my family tree that has given any bother
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1891 for reference:
Name: John Gallaugher
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Gallaugher
Mother's name: Annie Gallaugher
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Whitwood
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip
Town: Whitwood
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Pontefract
Sub-registration district: Castleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3762
Folio: 88
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
John Gallaugher 36
Annie Gallaugher 26
John Gallaugher 9
Mary E Gallaugher 6
Alice D Gallaugher 1
1901 Ditto
Name: John Gallagher
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Gallagher
Mother's name: Annie Gallagher
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Whitwood
Ecclesiastical parish: Whitwood St Phillip
Town: Whitwood
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Pontefract
Sub-registration district: Castleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 84
Piece: 4301
Folio: 90
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
John Gallagher 49 born Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Annie Gallagher 36 born Burnley, Lancashire
John Gallagher 19
Alice Gallagher 11
Annie Gallagher 9
Edward Gallagher 6
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just to be sure we have the right man is this the one you mean in 1911, though it says born Pontefract and residing Methley. if not can you post the correct one:
Name: John Gallagher
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Pontefract, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Methley
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: Low Common Methley Nr Leeds
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner
Registration district: Pontefract
Registration District Number: 505
Sub-registration district: Castleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Piece: 27489
Household Members:
Name Age
John Gallagher 29
Tollie Gallagher 24 (probably Lottie)
Leonard Gallagher 1
Minnie Gallagher 3/1
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John Snr in 1861??
Name: John Gallehar
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Ferrey Gallehar
Mother's name: Bridgett Gallehar
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Wolverhampton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 41
Piece: 1991
Folio: 91
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Ferrey Gallehar 40 born Ireland
Bridgett Gallehar 46 born Ireland
Thomas Gallehar 10
John Gallehar 6
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John snr birth ?
Name: John Gallogher
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1855
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
Volume: 6b
Page: 453
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Joh Snr's brothers birth??
Births Dec 1851
GALLAGHER Thomas Wolverhampton 17 405
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do you think that Ferrey Gallehar should be Terrey Gallehar?
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Thats the one that says born Pontefract which is the reg for Methley area.
Whitwood fits to family knowledge
Yes I reckon Terr(e)y but more inclined towards Dominic & Julia
Trouble is there is possibility of 2 fathers for John b1882 and I tried to narrow it down with occupations later in life. Mine were all coal miners.
I've even got a family photo of grandfather in his ww1 uniform but cannot find him in the ww1 records
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?????? Father b Ireland. Father, John and Edward all miners.
The 1871 Census
is provided in
association with:.1871 England Census
about John Gallagher Name: John Gallagher
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Timothy Gallagher
Mother's name: Catharine Gallagher
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Willenhall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Willenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 45
Piece: 2945
Folio: 8
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Timothy Gallagher 60
Catharine Gallagher 56
John Gallagher 20
Edward Gallagher 18
Vera
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